Talk:Cambodian Rocks

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About the lead paragraph
Great job by everyone, especially Rhododendrites, in developing this great article. I have a minor concern about the opening paragraph, which says: "Little information about them or their creative output has survived." This statement contradicts the rest of the article, which has lots of information! It was possibly true when the bootleg album appeared in 1996; at that time apparently nobody outside of Cambodia ever knew that there was an old rock scene there. The fact that Wikipedia has detailed articles on folks like Sinn Sisamouth and Ros Serey Sothea shows that the "little information" problem has since been rectified, at least partially. That's thanks to more recent news articles, the Don't Think I've Forgotten film, etc.

So maybe the opening paragraph should say something like "At the time, information about artist names and song titles had been lost, but the album revived interest in the musicians and their creative output." And that statement can be backed up with the sources that are used elsewhere in the article. I could do this but thought I'd get an opinion from the folks who did the original research for the article. Thanks. D OOMSDAYER 520 (Talk|Contribs) 16:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Good point. I went ahead and changed the line to "A great deal of information about them and their creative output was lost, although some has been recovered since the album's release." That a lot was lost and some recovered seems to be true even for the biggest names in the bunch. No objections if you want to tweak further. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 00:01, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Moving Your Text to Another Article
Attention everyone who helped make this a "good article": There is a link here to Music of Cambodia, which is apparently a work in progress. As of right now, that article has a mere one sentence about the 60s/70s rock boom. Our article on Cambodian Rocks has become Wikipedia's authority on that era thanks to the great text and reliable sources that you guys used. So I am going to borrow some of the stuff here and add it to that article, though I will not be overloading Cambodia's thousand-year music history with this one time period. If you're knowledgeable on the topic, consider helping expand Music of Cambodia. Thanks. --- D OOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 18:13, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. To be clear, though, you mean copying/using the text, not moving it, right? I may be able to help a little with that article. Leaving a message about organization on that talk page. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 19:55, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I forgot that Move is a specific Wikipedia term... it's just copy/paste. --- D OOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 15:53, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Copyright status
Aside from the Sinn Sisamouth part already discussed in the article, is there any other info on the copyright status of these works? And not just whether they're copyrighted or not, but if so, how they (or families) go about collecting royalties? Volunteer Marek (talk) 08:49, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I've only read about Sisamouth's family, unfortunately. Which isn't all that inspiring since he was the most well-known, with lots of well-known songs and political connections and it still took his family a decade of pushing following the implementation of copyright laws in the early 00s. I don't know the specific process they would undertake, but I know that with Sisamouth, even given his level of fame, there was still a real issue of being able to prove authorship given so much documentation was lost. There's the newness of copyright in the culture, and the proliferation of pirated copies, such that it's not clear how much in royalties they would receive. I don't think anyone is collecting back royalties -- just from the point copyright is granted forward (I think?). Some OR in this response FWIW. Just did a quick search but didn't find anything new. Useful bit via Phnom Penh Post: "Since 1982 record companies have been selling bootleg copies of “golden era” classics but the families of the songwriters haven’t received any royalties because of weak copyright laws and enforcement in Cambodia and a lack of documentation proving who actually wrote the songs." Could really use more Khmer speakers in these articles. I think as of today we have at least stubs on all of the artists on this album, but some (like Meas Samon and Liev Tuk) seem to have a whole lot of media out there but little available in English... &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 02:40, 20 July 2018 (UTC)