Talk:Campbell Newman

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Despite this issue being key to his election, it is important to note that the Newman lead Council-commissioned consultation the proposal showed a high level of support for the Soorley plan

...no source cited and open to argument. Should be written as opinion not as a fact without a source.

Further claim of:

Despite claims to be "on time and below budget," the Bridge was completed some 12 months after it was original planned to be completed and after taking into account ancillary works, was over budget. The delay and budget blowout was entirely attributable to Newman's waffling support for the bridge.

This is not cited, is potentially libellous and not up to Wikipedia standards


 * Absolutely, the article read like a bad op ed and was completely unsourced. I've junked most of it. FiggyBee (talk) 20:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

"July 2008" section
An "ongoing saga" about rates is hardly encyclopedic material. The synthesis presented is both original research and not NPOV, and the issue in general is completely non-noteworthy in what is supposed to be an encylopedic biography, not a debating forum about the policies of the BCC. FiggyBee (talk) 01:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Anyone know how tall the Lord Mayor is?203.27.62.92 (talk) 04:17, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Right Honourable
If I recall rightly the Right Honourable title for the lord mayors of Australian cities only applies for the duration of the term as mayor as it part of the mayor's title. It will not be carried with Campbell Newman when (and if) he resigns. Bsfairman (talk) 10:56, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


 * That is correct, but it is part of the official Style of the office of the Lord Mayor. So he is The Right Honorable Lord Mayor of Brisbane, Councillor Campbell Newman - as opposed to, say, the Mayor of Pine Rivers, The Honorable Yvonne Chapman, whose style was (and is) a result of having been a minister in the State government. FiggyBee (talk) 03:41, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Not Leader of the Opposition
Campbell Newman is not the Leader of the Opposition in Queensland. The Leader of the Opposition is a parliamentary role—Newman is not a member of parliament, and until such time as he is, Jeff Seeney is Opposition Leader. I believe the LNP constitution does not allow him to be the party leader either, although as Antony Green said, the LNP could vote to amend the constitution to allow this. --Canley (talk) 06:57, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

That is not strictly true. While "Parliamentary Leader of the LNP" is a role that can only be filled by a member of parliament, the leader of the opposition is the person whom is the alternative Premier. There has never been a constitutional requirement for parliamentary membership. In this case, Mr Newman is probably the person best described as "Leader of The Opposition". I don't think that anyone would seriously say that Mr Seeney is the real leader of the opposition. He is leader of the parliamentary party, but he is not the alternative Premier. 124.190.18.173 (talk) 09:54, 4 April 2011 (UTC)


 * The role of the Leader of the Opposition is parliamentary by convention, but you're right, it does not appear to be strictly defined in the law, or the Queensland Parliament standing orders or parliamentary handbook. Anyway, it's not clear-cut at all and there is a huge discussion at Talk:Next Queensland state election about how to list Campbell and Seeney. --Canley (talk) 10:27, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Major rewrite reverted.
I have reverted a major rewrite by user HangingCurve for the following reasons. If other editors feel the information belongs they can add if they wish, but as is, the above issues need to be addressed.--Dmol (talk) 21:49, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * There was no previous discussion regarding changes.
 * Much of it was opinion and subjective comments, ie, "Newman became a national figure" and "safe seat".
 * Some is trivia, for example, "first Brisbane-based politician to lead the non-Labor side into a Queensland election since..."
 * Some is predicting a win for him in the election, against our crystal ball policy.
 * The picture definitely needs to go ... it was taken from the LNP Website, and therefore violates NFCC criterion #1. I restored a free version ... now let's turn to the rest.  Perhaps maybe I could restore some of the changes that aren't too overheated? HangingCurveSwing for the fence 23:04, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Nickname
A lot seems to be being made of his nickname and Duntroon "antics" presumably Newman aspires to seriousness..."It is common for supporters to refer to him as "Can Do Campbell". At Duntroon, he was nicknamed "Noddy", in reference both to his appearance and to his misadventures during his time in the Army"

A plea for patience and restraint
It seems very likely that Campbell Newman will win Ashgrove and the LNP will win the election. These results will probably both be clear tomorrow night (Saturday). What usually happens at such times (e.g. 2007 Federal election, 2010 Victorian election, 2011 NSW election) is that well-meaning but constitutionally illiterate editors rush in and declare the Opposition leader is now the Prime Minister/Premier and they insert the date of the election as the start of their term.

Can I make a plea for people to restrain themselves this time? There is a process that has to be gone through. Anna Bligh firstly has to resign her commission to the Governor, at which time she (Bligh) will probably recommend she (Wensley) commission the Member-elect for Ashgrove (Newman) to form a government. He will then be summoned, he will no doubt accept that commission, and then he'll be sworn in as the Premier. This may not occur till Tuesday or Wednesday next week. It may even have to wait for him to be officially declared the winner in Ashgrove, and that may have to go to preferences if it's close. There's never been a similar situation where an alternative Premier is not yet a member of the parliament, so who knows how this will play out. In the meantime, the best he'll be is Premier-elect and Bligh remains caretaker Premier.

Please do not let me down, or I'll send you to bed without your supper. I thank you. --  Jack of Oz   [your turn]  09:23, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * See also . --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  10:55, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Deleted a sentence in the lede about CN being the 38th premier and also a section in the infobox calling him the member for ashgrove. He hasn't been sworn in as either. 115.128.2.85 (talk) 12:09, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I think it's fair enough to say he's the Member for Ashgrove. His term starts on election day, not when he's sworn in to parliament, and it's quite correct to append MP after people's names when there's no doubt they've been elected.  There's not even a need to wait for the formal declaration of the poll.  The premiership is a different matter; he is premier-elect until he's sworn in by the governor.  --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  20:00, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Good article reads well
Congrats to all. Will be good to see things when all the official paperwork and swearing is done.Benyoch (talk) 11:43, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Lord Mayoralty
My wish for this article would be to see a more detailed look at his term as Lord Mayor - CityCycle, the tunnels, the Go-Between Bridge, the war with inner-city appartment dwellers over rates. I wonder if there are any good printed references for it? Just thought I'd ask. Slac speak up! 07:00, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Nice point, Lacrimosus. His mayorship can get buried by his premiership. But I am too far removed to do the job justice. Benyoch (talk) 13:58, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

What's the point of this sentence?
QUOTE from 6th para under section State politics and LNP leadership:

'The first Newspoll taken after Newman assumed the leadership showed that the LNP had regained the lead in opinion polling; it had led most polls from July until the floods.'

What's the point of this sentence? Or, am I missing something here that is not stated? Perhaps it is my NSW-ignorance of the events. By all means correct if necessary, with thanks; or, wise me up, with thanks.

Benyoch (talk) 13:55, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Newman and the premier's literary awards
For the editor keen to emphasise this matter you may wish to refer to the following as a sources to justify the government's rejection of the awards. It's a worthy topic and should be referenced, in my view. However, it needs to be written in an encyclopedic writing style and be contained to reflect the content of the sources used. Broad brush edits like 'Newman wants nothing to do with the Literary community' should not be used if the matter of concern is restricted to literary awards and is government policy. Also, the reason for discontinuing the awards should be included. http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/newman-has-broken-promise-qld-writers/story-e6frfku0-1226318185668 and http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-03/queensland-government-scraps-literary-awards/3930564/?site=newcastle Benyoch (talk) 23:53, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Controversy section
There is some serious issues with this edit introducing a controversy section. I have reverted it although potentially some of the content will return to the article in a modified form after discussion here.

I can think of four issues with the added text:


 * 1) If the section is about his position on sexuality, maybe it should be called "position on sexuality" or something similar.
 * 2) The sentence 'Within the first 100 days as an offficial represententive of Queensland there has been much controversy over his policies, especially those related to the GLBTI community.' needs a citation.
 * 3) The half-sentence 'Having been accused of being "the puppet of the Australian Christian Lobby"' is problematic. Who did the accusing?
 * 4) And relatively minor point but why the extra lines before the references section?

Yaris678 (talk) 00:45, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Redcliffe state by-election, 2014
Is there going to be anything in this article about Newman's bizarre statement that closing fire stations for a day was not a problem? Seems to me that it may have influenced the Redcliffe race's results (though he blames Driscoll). -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:10, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Seems a bit esoteric to me. Timeshift (talk) 18:57, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Premier Newman
Under the vagaries of Queensland's constitution, even though a Premier may loose his/her seat at an election, they remain Premier until such time as they hand in their commission to the Governor. Please note in your edits. Media articles on this issue are located here: ABC News (Australia), news.com.au, and the Brisbane Times. Rangasyd (talk) 10:32, 31 January 2015 (UTC)


 * That's how it is everywhere in the Westminster system. John Howard lost his seat on 24 November 2007 but remained Prime Minister till 5 December 2007.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  10:43, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Well, given that he's now conceded defeat, it's just a matter of time. I imagine if ALP gets a majority (a near certainty now), it won't be long before Annastacia Palaszczuk is sworn in. 60.240.207.146 (talk) 11:33, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Second all this. He is still Premier, and will likely remain Premier for a few more days. Don't jump the gun and have the article say he is not Premier any more until that is actually true SJK (talk) 13:14, 31 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, I wish people would learn a little about how our polities actually work. It's the voters who decide which party commands a majority in the legislature, but it's the Governor who formally commissions that party leader as Premier (or in the case of a hung parliament, actually decides which party will govern), and that never happens on election night.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  20:01, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * My apologies for reverting your edit without comment. I have marked up some areas which need some work, such as some statements which do not appear to be supported by the references, or are not referenced at all. --Canley (talk) 04:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

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Liberal Democratic Party - greater prominence in the lede
With the 2022 election getting very much closer, and in view of the fact that he will be lead Senate candidate for the LD’s (as well as having just struck a preference deal with the UAP), wouldn’t it be appropriate to state his party allegiance in para. 1? That he has left the coalition parties behind is really rather important in these times. Boscaswell  talk  21:38, 23 November 2021 (UTC)