Talk:Canadian Championship

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If anyone that reads this knows how to get Vancouver Whitecaps to link to the teams page without needing to have (USL) beside it please go ahead and change that. Also, feel free to add, and edit the page as details of the tournament continue to come out. Cheers NeilCanada (talk) 03:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Im excited for soccer in this country, will create some intriguing match-ups Krayziegunts (talk) 11:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

New Name
It will now be called the Nutrilite Canadian Champions League. I don't have a chance to work to update everything today, so I'm just putting the news out there. Hopefully, someone can get around to it.

http://www.broadcastermagazine.com/issues/ISArticle.asp?id=84703&issue=05232008

Lucky Strike (talk) 15:57, 23 May 2008 (UTC)Lckystrke
 * I just saw the news also, I'll do it sometime today as soon as I figure out how to do a redirect properly. I will also change all the other articles that link to this.NeilCanada (talk) 18:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Competition name
Is Canadian Championship the definitive name, as this has also been reported under various other names. I think the article should also mention that is has been known as 'Cup of Soccer' as 'Champions League' to help avoid confusion. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 19:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Canada Cup of Soccer was never an official name, and really was only used on wiki as it was what manyin the media was reporting it as. Canadian Champions League was beleive to be the name after a media release reported it as the name (also cbc sports online schedule used that name). However, the CSA finally released an official release with the name in it http://www.canadasoccer.com/eng/media/viewArtical.asp?Press_ID=3190

So, 'Canadian Championship' is the definitive name (although with the CSA you can never be sure). The other two names were just mistakes. NeilCanada (talk) 20:01, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it looks pretty conclusive 'Canadian Championship' is the official name, but I still think the article should make brief mention of the other (incorrect) names to help avoid confusion. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 22:50, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Info box
The infobox under the trophy lists the Montreal Impact as defending champions and as 6 time winners. To me this seems incorrect as the 2008 edition of the Canadian Championship is the inaugural edition. The information that is currently there would seem appropriate in the Voyageurs Cup article, but not here I think. Does anyone else agree?NeilCanada (talk) 02:09, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed, and I've moved the past winners table to the Voyageurs Cup page. This tournament, as a new competition, will feature winners from 2008, while the Voyageurs Cup page refers to the trophy itself and will list winners from 2002-the present and beyond (including Canadian Championship winners). Think of it as like the Stanley Cup preceding the NHL. - themodelcitizen
 * Sounds good, and regarding the previous Voyageurs Cup I had started to do articles for each individual Voyagerus Cup. I only finished 2002, 2003 and started 2004. So they could be linked through the dates in the tables. NeilCanada (talk) 01:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

The name of this wikipedia article is wrong
The name of this competition is the Nutrilite Canadian Championship. Fix the title.

Besides, Canadians are increasingly calling the sport its rightful name of Football.


 * If you read the first paragraph of the article the name and how Nutrilite fits in is explained pretty well. This is similar to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_league article. Note how its not titled the Barcleys Premier league. Do we really want to be changing the name of the article everytime the sponsor changes? NeilCanada (talk) 18:56, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

concacaf champions
Would a Canadian team quilify to the Concacaf if they win the MLS cup? how about the Soporters shield? --Ceezmad (talk) 19:39, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * No, they are specificaly excluded from taking that route.
 * Apparently in the Northern zone the spots are given by CONCACAF to the national associations, (with Mexico and US each currently given 4, Canada 1, and Bermuda 0) and each individual FA determines how to dole them out, thus the three spots are not given to MLS, but rather are amongst those 4 given to the USSF, which in turn chooses to give three of them to [American] teams based on MLS results. Since the Canadian teams do not fall under the authority of the USSF, they can't give one of their berths to a Canadian team.
 * It is apparently theoretically possible that the CSA could choose in the future to award its berth (or perhaps berths in the future) to the highest finishing Canadian-based team within MLS (or any other competition featuring Canadian teams).
 * In contrast- from what I can tell, in UNCAF, CONCACAF apparently sets the instructions for how berths are awarded, and of course in the CFU it is given to the three best finishers of the CFU Club Cup (though the qualification procedures for that tournament are unclear).
 * Perhaps in the future CONCACAF will take more direct control within the Northern Zone (like they do in UNCAF) and give a mix of spots to specific leagues and FA's both.
 * Of course, Canadian club(s) can qualify for the SuperLiga via MLS since that is specifically between MLS and the FMF. Likewise, they theoretically could also possibly qualify for the Pan-Pacifc Championship (If the qualifying method for that tournament is ever codified) via MLS since it is specifically between MLS and other leagues.  Gecko G (talk) 11:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

New MLS clubs
How are we going to go about listing the new MLS Whitecaps and Impact? They are totally new entities, yes both clubs are at heart a continuation but not legal status. I believe they should be listed differently when it comes to all time results etc but its going to look stupid. Maybe keep them the same with notes?
 * No, the past should be revised the Whitecaps franchise that is playing in MLS is not the same one that competed in the tournament before 2011. Likewise, the Impact team joining MLS in 2012 is not the same team that is currently playing in the NASL.  Perhaps a list of previous participants should be added. KitHutch (talk) 23:48, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Past winners
I have deleted the previous league tables. Normally these would not be included in a summery page. As well as this it would look stupid now the format is a knock out stage. Somebody put a league table of the 2011 season but this is wrong as technically a side could draw all 4 games and win the cup (winning both legs on away goals) while the runner up could of won their first two games. ie You end up with the runners up on 8 points and the winners on 4!

The new format is split to include 3rd place and now "losing semi finalists". But I don't know as yet if this is set or if a side with the less heavy defeat is determined third. Does anybody know? Xenomorph1984 (talk) 20:38, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

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Expand Year by Year Table
I would like to expand the by year table to include a summary of the format and number of participating clubs as follows:

By year
Let me know if you see any errors or have any suggestions? --TinTin (talk) 00:28, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Make the participant number centred and it should be OK. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:49, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

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Sponsor
I don't think this is sponsored by Amway anymore. There is no mention of Amway, and the logo has been tweaked. http://www.canadasoccer.com/schedule-s15265 DSM FC (talk) 16:00, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * That could be. We should determine if the sponsorship has ended and discuss that appropriately. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:41, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Says the only partners are Allstate and Bell. http://www.canadasoccer.com/partners-s15296 Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 19:08, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Finals articles
Is there any particular reason that there are only articles for Canadian Championship Finals after the 2018 edition? And if not, should an effort be made to create an article for the remaining seasons (2011-2018)? RedBlueGreen93 (talk) 22:20, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * If I recall, around 2018 the match started being considered prestigious enough to get its own article so we began writing them that way. I'm not sure enough sourcing can necessarily be found for the older ones, but feel free to see what you can find. Radagast (talk) 00:22, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Flags
I have noticed that several club season articles (e.g. 2022 Vancouver Whitecaps season) have a flag icon representing the province of the participating clubs. For example:

instead of...

Is this something that we want to be consistent throughout some or all of the Canadian Championship pages and/or club season pages? My guess is that this has been done to make it appear more like the U.S. Open Cup articles (e.g. 2022 U.S. Open Cup), and it doesn't really take away from the appearance or clarity of the article/section, although I personally believe that the Canadian Championship is not on a scale where this is important. What are your thoughts? <b style="color: #B02E26">Red</b><b style="color: #3B7FCA">Blue</b><b style="color: #69C05D">Green</b><b style="color: #000000">93</b> (talk) 9:10, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The provincial flag icons are unnecessary clutter and are irrelevant here (MOS:FLAGRELEVANCE). Unlike a tournament such as the Challenge Trophy, teams in the Canadian Championship do not represent their provinces and therefore should not be shown with a flag. <b style="color: #329604">B</b><b style="color: #FD8F42">L</b><b style="color: #0096FF">A</b>IXX 15:40, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Maybe this can be revisited if the Canadian Championship is expanded to include amateur or more semi-pro clubs, but for now, I can delete them. <b style="color: #B02E26">Red</b><b style="color: #3B7FCA">Blue</b><b style="color: #69C05D">Green</b><b style="color: #000000">93</b> (talk) 18:56, 9 February 2023 (UTC)