Talk:Canadian Tire Centre

Kanata
Hmmm, Shouldn't the address be Kanata, Ontario? ccwaters 20:00, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, the article says that Kanata was merged into Ottawa, so based on that info, I'd say no. Then again, I am unfamiliar with Canadian addresses and the like, but that's what it looks like to me.  R ADICAL B ENDER  &#9733;  20:12, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Its been 4 years and the Senators and the Corel Centre still list their address as Kanata. I'd imagine is like giving out a Queens, NY addy. I'm not to familiar with Ottawa, been there once about 15-20 years ago. I'm not an authority, but I'd say use the address they use. ccwaters 20:30, 9 September 2005 (UTC)


 * The address is still Kanata, as far as I know. -- Earl Andrew - talk 20:51, 9 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I changed the postal address to Kanata, which the Corel Centre and the Senators still use. I assume there are situations along the lines of a X Main Street being in Ottawa proper and the neighborhood formerly known as Kanata. I left all references of the arena being in Ottawa alone. There already is an explanation of Kanata being absorbed in the article. ccwaters 14:27, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


 * There were mass street name changes after the amalgamation so there would be no problems for emergeny vehicles. -- Earl Andrew - talk 16:55, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Canada Post hasn't changed the mailing addresses yet as it would cost the city a small fortune to do. -- Spinboy 23:07, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

The thing is that Corel Centre is located in Ottawa. A valid solution could be to post it as 1000 Palladium Drive, Ottawa (Kanata), Ontario just until Canada Post decides to change the mailing address to mere Ottawa. Nikele


 * The first paragraph clearly states that the arena is in Ottawa in the area that was formerly Kanata. There is no attempt to hide that. If the official mailing address is Kanata, then the mailing address listed in the article should reflect that. ccwaters 13:30, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

i live in ottawa and the person who put the address as ottawa is wrong. even though its now part of ottawa you still have to put it as kanata cuz its a suburb

There are two correct addresses: As a result of amalgamation of the City of Ottawa, the correct CIVIC ADDRESS is Ottawa. HOWEVER, Canada Post does not recognize the City of Ottawa's amalgamation: ALL former municipalities remain (in fact the ONLY reliable way to search an address is using the name of the former municipality). Therefore, the correct MAILING ADDRESS for Canada Post is Kanata. IMHO, I believe the former names of municipalities will continue to be recognized, in spite of amalgamation, as is the case in other amalgamated municipalities in Canada, like Toronto for example. It's horribly confusing, but nobody ever said Canada Post knows what it's doing! Myarabianknight 16:30, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The correct mailing address should be Ottawa, since Kanata isn't a city anymore. Canada Post seems to prefer Kanata because it's more specific, but typically mail should be addressed by city, not by city ward. Canada Post will accept mail regardless if it's addressed to Kanata or Ottawa, because mail is sorted and delivered by postal codes anyway. I think the address on this page should remain Ottawa, because referencing a non-existant city is very confusing, especially for visitors. Also having the Ottawa Senators' arena located in a city outside of Ottawa wouldn't make much sense to outsiders, much as it didn't make sense to me when they built it. :) --70.81.251.32 01:36, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

The address should be listed as Kanata. This is the address used on the offical website of Scotiabank Place, so it should probably be the one used here. Jimemos (talk) 20:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Canada Post does recognize Kanata, Ontario as a valid address. Lead section has been reworded. Flibirigit (talk) 21:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Stop changing this to Kanata. There are lots of post offices in Ottawa. Vanier, Rockliffe, Nepean, Gloucester, Westboro. It's all Ottawa now. Just because you can use the old name doesn't mean the city did not merge into Ottawa. Alaney2k (talk) 23:06, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Location

 * The article suggests that the Corel Centre is located next to a 400-series highway due to transportation reasons, which is pretty far from the truth. Its location is due to the fact that Terrace Investments owned the land in Kanata, and an NHL hockey team/arena was the hook they tried to use to bring their lands within the urban boundary (the lands were zoned at the time for agricultural uses, and were unlikely to be rezoned for urban uses unless Terrace could "wow" the public authorities).  The arena's location is due to a real estate redevelopment scheme, therefore, and was not chosen due to any transportation criteria.  At the time, when Terrace was seeking municipal and OMB Official Plan and rezoning permissions to allow the arena, many argued that a downtown location would be preferable from a transportation perspective.  Terrace, unsurprisingly, refused to consider a downtown location because they did not own any land downtown and a downtown site would have torpedoed the rest of the redevelopment scheme in Kanata (ironically, the OMB eventually did shoot down the rest of the redevelopment when it approved the arena, and it wasn't until years later that the surrounding lands began to be redeveloped with business and retail uses). As anyone who has used the Queensway to get to and from a game at the Corel Centre can attest, putting the arena out in Kanata might not have been the best decision from a transportation perspective.  Skeezix1000 16:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Seating Capacity
There are a lot of conflicting statements about the seating capacity, one says it was increased 19,311, another area says 20,004, and it also says the seating capacity was increased by 2,000 from 18,500 making 20,500. As far as I know, the league still considers and attendance of 18,500 to be a sell out for the team, but most games featured attendance significantly higher than that capacity due to standing room. I looked at the website but couldn't find any numbers, does any one know for sure?


 * Are there standing room tickets available at the arena? Nyrmetros 05:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * According to the website, under venue history: "December 2004: Through a City of Ottawa review of by-laws in December 2004, the Corel Centre is allowed to increase its seating capacity to 19,153 and total attendance to 20,500." So it appears that there are 1000+ standing room spaces. Skeezix1000 13:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Wait, just noticed that the article has already been updated to reflect this information. Skeezix1000 13:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

the (more famous) London Palladium
YOu need a disambiguation section to distinguish this from the (more famous) London Palladium. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.205.224.155 (talk • contribs).
 * Whether it is more famous or not, and that's an issue for debate, the question is: why? The article isn't called "Palladium" - there is simply a mention in the article of the former name.  Nobody coming across this article entitled "Scotiabank Place" is going to be confused that they are reading an article about a London theatre.  In any event, if you type in "Palladium" in the Wikipedia search engine, you are directed to an article on the (even "more famous") chemical element.  That page has a disambiguation link that leads the reader, if necessary, to Palladium (disambiguation) which presumably lists all of the palladiums in Wikipedia.  Skeezix1000 12:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Assessment
I have assessed this as Start Class, as it contains more detail and organization than would be expected of a Stub, and of low importance, as it is a highly specific topic within Canada. Cheers, CP 14:43, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Nickname
I appreciate that some people have called this facility "the Bank" since it was renamed after Scotiabank. However, and I am asking this question because I don't know the answer, is the nickname sufficiently common that it merits inclusion at the top of the infobox of this article? And if so, can anyone provide a verifiable source that shows that that the nickname is in common usage? And by that, I don't mean pointing to some random usage on the internet, but rather to a reliable source that actually says that it is a commonly-used nickname. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:29, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I asked this question almost a year and a half ago, and no one has responded. Absent some reliable source that shows that the arena is commonly called The Bank, it should not be at the top of the infobox. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 14:06, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I would say no. If you admittedly cannot find a source, I think that should be enough to answer your own question. ChakaKongtalk 15:03, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Canadian Tire Centre

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved. This move was already planned, sorry for the delay in carrying it out; this is considered non-controversial. :) · Salvidrim!  ·  &#9993;  23:48, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Please change the name of the arena to Canadian Tire Centre, the new name since today, July 1 2013. --84.91.103.211 (talk) 11:34, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Scotiabank Place → Canadian Tire Centre – Scotiabank Place is now officially Canadian Tire Centre since July 1, 2013. JGab12 (talk) 19:31, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The move protection is expiring in a few hours, and it can be moved anytime after that.  Taroaldo   ✉  22:35, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
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French name
The French name "Centre Canadian Tire" was added, then removed as "irrelevant". I reverted that, and was asked to provide a reference. A quick google news search reveals that yes, this is the French name. . Dbrodbeck (talk) 10:20, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * See that wasn't so hard to source your additions. I still feel that adding the french names to every single Canadian article on english wikipedia is incredibly stupid. But the PC army seems to love it. UrbanNerd (talk) 12:01, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * First off, no it was not so hard, and there is no need for the condescending tone. Secondly, I think it belongs here because of the nature of the city and that the team that plays there does business in two languages.  I certainly don't think it belongs, say at the Air Canada Centre article.  This has nothing to do with PC anything, please do not ascribe such motives to me again.  To be 100 percent clear, I am not proposing we add French translations to every article.  Anyway, it now seems reasonable to revert it back.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 12:16, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * UrbanNerd, please read WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL. Comments about the "PC army", whatever that is, are unhelpful and innacurate. I agree with Dbrodbeck.  If the centre has a name in the French-language, and uses it, then it should be briedly mentioned in the lead as per the usual Wikipedia style.  UrbanNerd's edit summary about sourcing the French-language name was a legitimate question (we cannot make up our own translations), but Dbrodbeck has now sourced it.  Given that the lead para. has had the French-language name for some time, there would need to be consensus to remove it. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 14:10, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Apologies. I just added one of Dbrodbeck's sources to the article, but was using a different browser, so the edit appears to have been done by an anon.  --Skeezix1000 (talk) 14:48, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Notable events
This section of the article is problematic. The reference to the July 7 Paul McCartney concert was recently added by an anon, and then promptly deleted as being "unsourced". One problem is that all but one entry in this section is unreferenced. The bigger issue is the question of what constitutes "notable". A sold-out concert is not notable - that happens all the time. A hockey tournament being held in a hockey arena is not in itself notable, unless that year's tournament itself is notable for some reason (first time the tournament is held in Ottawa, biggest tournament ever at the facility, etc.). Arguably, a record-attendance event is notable, and a "first" or a "last" event is also potentially notable. Ironically, the Paul McCartney might be notable, since IIRC it is the first time a Beatle played Ottawa. These "notable" sections are always a bit of a problem, since notability can be subjective, and these sections tend to become a bit of a dumping ground for people adding references to whatever concert or other event they attended and enjoyed. I think the section needs a bit more ongoing attention, and I am happy to help.--Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:40, 9 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I rewrote it as prose. Really, as a list it is very incomplete and is best written as prose. You are welcome to improve it. Alaney2k (talk) 15:11, 9 July 2013 (UTC)


 * It is no different than anything else here: people sometimes add unnecessary material. Other editors just have to be vigilant and keep removing the "junk". The venue events lists I have seen are just that -- basic lists, so I have restored the format and reduced a lot of the unnecessary wording.  Taroaldo   ✉  07:10, 21 July 2013 (UTC)


 * It might be time to get rid of the Notable Events section. I'm not sure that the fact that Ed Sheeran, One Direction, and John Mellencamp played shows there is noteworthy. 174.91.166.158 (talk) 01:13, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

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Seating Capacity (again)
The seating capacity in the article has been changed to read 19,153 which was the seating capacity from 2004-2017. The arena has since undergone pretty major renovations including the addition of Club Bell which lowered the seating capacity to 18,655. The reference being used is the Canadian Tire Centre A to Z guide which has not been updated in recent years and still reads "Canadian Tire Centre is the 19,153-seat home of the National Hockey League’s Ottawa Senators" in a single section of the webpage. This is incorrect and needs to be updated to reflect the renovations in 2017. It didn't miraculously return to the exact seating capacity from 2004 despite major renovations and seating configuration changes. The current capacity remains unchanged from last year at 18,655. 70.51.132.240 (talk) 03:00, 17 April 2024 (UTC)


 * ✅.... HOPING I GOT THIS DATA RIGHT. Is there a newer Source we could use? Moxy 🍁 03:48, 17 April 2024 (UTC)