Talk:Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome

Possibly relevant RFC
I've posted a Request for Comments at Talk:Cannabis_(drug). I'll be adding an additional side comment about the multi-year conflict about CHS numbers here, and User:Alexbrn's reasonable resolution of it. If you're interested in an WP:NPOV approach to cannabis, check out the RFC link. 02:57, 8 January 2022 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finney1234 (talk • contribs) 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Claim about cause of deaths - extremly weak and highly misleading source, n=2
I looked at the article's German source "Cannabinoidhyperemesis als Differenzialdiagnose von Übelkeit und Erbrechen in der Notaufnahme".

It is soley based on  "Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome: Reports of Fatal Cases" https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1556-4029.13819. Looking at this primary source, there is not any evidence for any causation and N=2. That's absolutely insufficient and highly misleading.

Other language versions of Wikipedia are much more careful to describe the phenomenon.

This looks like a NPOV claim witout any good supporting evidence.

The very foundation of this article's claim is not supported by any good evidence 91.17.42.12 (talk) 06:51, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That source is not WP:MEDRS. So not useful. Alexbrn (talk) 06:57, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


 * That is exactly my point. This source is the entire evidence in the article supporting the claim of related deaths and it is obviously too weak.


 * The fact that there is no good evidence supporting the article's claim of cannabis related deaths shows that this part of the article today is obviously not NPOV. It can not support the claim and therefore should changend accordingly. 2003:ED:A70B:2300:6089:41DB:1265:E463 (talk) 18:22, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not a source we cite. If you think an unreliable source is being cited, please identify it. Alexbrn (talk) 18:28, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


 * The WP article elaborates the N. It says "The condition can be fatal – in two cases the reported cause of death was kidney failure and electrolyte disorders." This satisfies WP:MEDRS that says "Any text that relies on primary sources should usually have minimal weight, only describe conclusions made by the source, and describe these findings so clearly that any editor can check the sourcing without the need for specialist knowledge." Addendum - Although I see that's in the reflist of the secondary article. I will remove death from the infobox as too weak and leave the two reported cases with the original source. MartinezMD (talk) 21:44, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Update to Wiki page
I entered a paragraph on this wiki page and it was reverted.

15:10, 6 April 2022‎ 2600:1700:8390:81b0:9df0:9b4a:b3e9:693d talk‎ 30,174 bytes +1,627‎  →‎Diagnosis: 5 genetic markers may help diagnose Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome. undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit

Can you tell me why it was reverted?

Thanks, Julie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:8390:81B0:464:21A3:164D:55A4 (talk) 18:17, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Because we need secondary sources for this type of material in accord with WP:MEDRS. Alexbrn (talk) 18:19, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * We were able to find a journal article that cited our article: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14656566.2022.2049237 45.29.188.253 (talk) 14:57, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That would be:
 * which appears to be a fine source. Alexbrn (talk) 15:10, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Great! Do I reenter all the info/edit the WP article again? Thanks, Julie 45.29.188.253 (talk) 19:23, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It would be better to try to summarize the key points of the new review source. At most anything about the Russo et al paper would have to be sourced to the review, not the primary source. Alexbrn (talk) 19:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for accepting the paragraph we submitted on the 5 genetic markers for CHS. We have a website that gives more info at https://what-is-chs.com. Is this appropriate for listing as an external link? 45.29.188.253 (talk) 13:05, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you have a suggestion for where we can reference https://what-is-chs.com? 45.29.188.253 (talk) 19:10, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you have a suggestion for where we can reference https://what-is-chs.com? 45.29.188.253 (talk) 19:10, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, I am editing this article as part of a medical school course. If anyone has suggestions or feedback, feel free to reach out. --LukeC98 (talk) 17:09, 14 February 2024 (UTC)