Talk:Cannibal (roller coaster)

Image
I know this roller coaster is still under construction, but could someone upload a free image of the coaster during construction. 97.126.227.36 (talk) 00:49, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

There are pictures at LagoonIsFun, I will work on getting permission to use them. Actually, Lagoon posted good quality pictures on Facebook, so I will try to contact them to get permission. --WeatherKidd (talk) 00:58, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

simulation video
The simulation video was not created by Lagoon. It is fan-art. 65.130.140.19 (talk) 10:49, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Vendors
ART Engineering GmbH (ART Product GmbH) was involved with the Engineering of the Ride, and has supplied Bolts, Brakes, Sew Drive Motors, Elevator Lift, Friction Drives, Lift Drive, Trains, and many more items for Cannibal. http://www.artengineering.de/en/

ART Product GmbH Bills of Lading for Cannibal: http://portexaminer.com/trade-data/art-product-gmbh-lagoon-corporation-inc/hlcuham131039094/ http://portexaminer.com/trade-data/art-product-gmbh-lagoon-corporation-inc/hlcuham131228639/ http://portexaminer.com/trade-data/art-product-gmbh-lagoon-corporation-inc/hlcuham140664704/ http://portexaminer.com/trade-data/art-product-gmbh-lagoon-corporation-inc/hlcuham140674364/ https://panjiva.com/Lagoon-Corporation-Inc/2030995

Actemium Controlmatic GmbH is responsible for the Controls and Safety System (PLCs). Actemium Controlmatic GmbH Bill of Lading for Cannibal: http://portexaminer.com/trade-data/actemium-controlmatic-gmbh-lagoon-corporation-inc/cmduhbg0995503/

Intermountain Lift, Inc. was responsible for fabricating the Columns and Track Segments for Cannibal, as they were listed on Lagoon's List of Local Contractors in their Press Packet. http://www.intermountainlift.com/amusement.htm

In this first post in the Lagoonisfun.com Cannibal Thread, you will find what exactly was in the Press Packet Lagoon Sent Me. It also lists all of the stats released by Lagoon, such as the Length (2,735 Feet). http://www.lagoonisfun.com/showthread.php?tid=5247

Linearinduction (talk) 11:21, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Inversions
RCDB.com is incorrect about Cannibal's Inversion Count, as Cannibal only has 4 Inversions (Inverted Loop, Diving Loop, Barrel Roll, Barrel Roll). RCDB.com Falsely Counts the Overbanked Turn as an Inversion. By their reasoning, Millennium Force at Cedar Point has 3 Inversions. Linearinduction (talk) 11:32, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Number of trains
The source that keeps getting added back into the article to cite the number of trains as 5-6 has issues. First and foremost, I still question its reliability. This is from a blog forum, in which a poster there known as linearinduction claims the information was confirmed by LagoonisFun sources. The confirmation should have been published by those confirming it, in my opinion, or at least within an article by respectable author. Secondly, these were projected plans for the new ride back in 2012 prior to construction. As a result of the amount of time it took to plan, build, and open the ride, it is quite possible these do not represent the final specifications accurately. We need a better source that lists the specs after the ride opened. The ones we have so far don't mention the number of trains, and therefore, we shouldn't either. Besides, a range like "5-6" isn't really acceptable. --GoneIn60 (talk) 21:16, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * As a part time employee of Lagoon, and a Utah native, I personally confirm that Lagoon has 7 cars. 6 of which are used during full operations with 1 spare, that can easily be deployed when needed. FrontrunnerJake (talk) 19:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * , great that you "know" this information as a former employee, but unfortunately information on Wikipedia cannot be based on personal experience (see the policy regarding original research). If it has not been reliably published, then the information is not considered verifiable. Fortunately in this case, someone added 7 trains years ago using Ultimate Rollercoaster as a source. Not the strongest of sources, but it works. --GoneIn60 (talk) 20:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Manufacturer
I feel that crediting ART Engineering as the manufacture is not accurate information. It gives them more credit than they deserve. The ride was designed in house, which is well covered by the page, but not much is mention about those who really build the ride. Intermountain Lift (Salt Lake UT) build the track and Peterson Inc (Farr West UT) built the support structure. ART just provide the "mechanical guts" of the ride. Right now I can't recall who made the cars, but it was ART. FrontrunnerJake (talk) 19:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * For many years, this was listed as "Lagoon Corporation" in the article, and I have since restored it with this edit. The RCDB source does seem to state "ART Engineering GmbH" now as the "Make", but for many years as recent as 2021 (archived here), this entry stated "Built In-House".Not sure why this has changed at RCDB, but as far as we know, ART was only responsible for the trains (and perhaps as you say, other mechanical components of the ride). A majority of the ride, including track and supports, were designed and manufactured in-house, and there are numerous sources to back this up overriding RCDB. --GoneIn60 (talk) 20:22, 9 May 2024 (UTC)