Talk:Canon (music)

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For earlier history of this article, see canon.

Example Canon
The very first example on this canon should maybe be something less contrived? I would suggest "Row Row Row Your Boat" as the one most familiar to English-speaking (...American?) non-musicians -- and would upload it myself, but my account is too new 😅 Maia.mcc (talk) 18:35, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Caccia
The disambiguation page for "caccia" includes that term's definition as an Italian musical and poetic form. It doesn't make sense for that term to redirect here, first because we would have to define "caccia" exclusively in musical terms as a canon form—which it needn't be (it need only be abundantly imitative), second because this article would have to mention the caccia as a body of literature exemplifying canons but distinctive in other important ways (the term "caccia" doesn't even occur in this article), and third because this article contains no discussion of poetry.

Also, I think this article should include some mention of the fugue, and less obviously, some mention of the Anglicized false-cognate of the caccia, the "catch." The term catch is used, I think, interchangeably with the term round. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.114.159.69 (talk) 08:55, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Proposed outline
My proposed outline for the tangled musical canon section:

intro I. History II. Types of canons A. Number of voices B. Interval at which follower starts C. Direction in which follower moves 1. Inversion or "mirror" 2. Retrograde D. Mensuration and tempo canons E. Other types of canons III. Contemporary use of canons Hyacinth

Region
Canons at the fourth and fifth in African music are mentioned in Akpabot, "Functional Music of the Ibibio", p.89. (van der Merwe 1989, p.188) Hyacinth 07:01, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

identify canon?
We were singing a canon in my school choir with a song that went ... if all the children of the world lived in peace or something.... could somebody tell me how it goes?? cause I forgot it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.218.176.230 (talk) 14:14, 1 September 2005

meaning of the Old French word "canon"
The article says that Old French "canon" meant "leaned". I think this is a typo: didn't it mean "learned"? --dveej


 * You're absolutely correct; oops! I fixed it. Antandrus  (talk) 16:23, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Mirror Canon
The entry for mirror canon was incorrect; I changed it. You do not use a mirror to read a mirror canon, unless, of course, you are smoking crack. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.192.103.29 (talk) 16:54, 18 July 2007

origin of 'canon' not just old french, but arabic/greek meaning 'law' - qaanoon
The origin of the word 'canon' not only old french, but arabic and greek meaning 'law' - qaanoon. such as baghdad 800-1000 AD in sources. same with origins of departments/faculties & universities.

For example see: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/canon For a history of ideas see George Makdisi's book, http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=89199126

The mention of the origin as Old French is therefore narrow and needs correction please. How old it is in greek (via pheonician sources?) or arabic sources (around mediterranean) is difficult to speculate. the word is common (meaning law, in its popular sense, or its instrument) in arabic, persian, urdu, etc.

Small help in clearing eurocentrism. best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibn-arabi (talk • contribs) 13:52, 27 October 2008


 * English is a European language based partly on Old French. Thus it is hardly eurocentric to assume European origins for its vocabulary in the absence of evidence to the contrary. In any case whether the origin of canon was Greek or Arabic, it almost certainly entered Old French from that origin first and was brought from there to English. So as far as English is concerned the origin was Old French. -- Derek Ross | Talk'' 16:49, 27 May 2009 (UTC)