Talk:Cap (sport)

Why the move??
Why has this page been moved? The previous title was more than adequate, especially as caps are also awarded for school, state, county or international appearances. --Bob 17:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
International Cap → Cap (sport) … Rationale: revert erroneous move to International Cap is requested. Move was made with no consensus. Move was made while the article clearly states that caps are also given for an appearance for a select team, such as a school, county or state, not uniquely international appearances. Here is an example from the Queensland Reds of usage of the term cap for non-international games. … Please share your opinion below. --Bob 17:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

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Support - caps are not just awarded for international games, but also for state games. Here is an example from the Queensland Reds of usage of the term cap for non-international games. --Bob 18:41, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Moved. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 19:21, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Cricket county caps
I was about to write a quick cricket-related article under county cap, but it may well be more sensible to put a section in here instead. However, it should be noted that (in most cases) English county teams do not automatically award caps to players on their first appearance: they have to be "earned" through good performances. Indeed, one can play at first-class level for several years without ever winning a cap. Loganberry (Talk) 13:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * add in the section then, and state that. --Bob 16:23, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Done, although it's not particularly brilliantly written. I had to move things around a little to stop it looking like a subsection of the football text. I also tweaked a couple of other things, such as removing the (presumably American) abbreviation "MNT" for "men's national team" and rewording it to a more globally understood phrase, as well as moving the "Records" section up so that it's clearly related to football, not to all sport which award casps. Loganberry (Talk) 12:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Can you only cap with one country?
I've heard it mentioned that a soccer player can play for the national team for any country he has citizenship, but one he caps with one of those teams, he can't play on any other national teams. An example would be Freddy who has US citizenship but was born in Ghana. Freddy capped with the US in January this year so now he can never play for the Ghana national team. Any idea if that business is true? --Fxer 21:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's correct. If a player is eligable to play for more than one national team, he makes a choice when he accepts his first call-up. It used to be that if you played for a country at any level (e.g. under 21) then you were stuck with that country, but FIFA changed that a couple of years ago, which allowed players like Frédéric Kanouté, who had previously played for the French under-21 team, to play for the full Malian national team. - Nzd   (talk)  19:48, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

In which sport were caps first awarded?
"The term dates from the practice in the United Kingdom of awarding a cap (meaning an item of headgear) to every player in an international match of Association Football..."

I'm fairly sure that this is wrong, and that the awarding of caps in cricket precedes that in football, but I'm not quite sure enough to change it.

JH 20:40, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Don't think so. Jooler 13:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Actual Caps
I am under the impression that (at least in the UK) actual caps are presented. Im sure I've seen moderen footballers showing them off in interviews. Graemec2 08:57, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree - I put a cite tag on that some time ago - but it was removed - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cap_%28sport%29&diff=59646846&oldid=59593220 Jooler 13:23, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * My understanding of the procedure in rugby in GB&I these days is that only a player's first "capping" results in an actual cap. I could be wrong on this.  Chris cheese whine 05:31, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I heard on the radio today from gabby_yorath wife of former Scotland rugby international Kenny_Logan and daughter of former Welsh international footballer Terry_Yorath that rugby players recieve a cap on their first and 50th international appearence, while footballers recieve a cap for ever appearence. Her father had given one of his caps to her brother as a 21st birthday present.Graemec2 09:51, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

It is certainly the case in the UK that individual caps are awarded for each international appearance, as can be seen in these pictures of Steven Gerrard’s trophy room. Coconino 22:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Cap only counts if you play, right?
Just wanted to make sure ... in football, a player is only capped if s/he makes an appearance in a match, right? It doesn't count if the player is selected for the team and even named to the team sheet, but doesn't play in the match? It's not clear in the article.  howcheng  {chat} 07:26, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * In football, players are only capped if they enter the pitch, which sometimes leads to last-minute substitutions being made purely to allow a player to win a cap. This is the counterpoint to the technique whereby a manager will substitute a player shortly before the end of a match in order for that player to leave the pitch to an ovation from the crowd. In either case the move is unlikely to be made if the result of the match is still in the balance. Coconino 14:00, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Cowls?
"shows the Scottish players wearing cowls" They look more like Phrygian caps to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.76.145.35 (talk) 12:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Gareth Thomas
This list of Rugby caps covers both codes doesn't it? Should Gareth Thomas be further up the table as he's gained a few caps playing RL for Wales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.110.143 (talk) 21:05, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Football caps
Can someone update them? It’s been 2 years since the last update. Madridista 911 (talk) 14:33, 14 August 2019 (UTC)