Talk:Cape Breton Regional Municipality

MAJOR UPDATE
I have added a "Canadian City" side bar for CBRM and have included content based on similar structures for other Canadian cities, especially the Halifax article.

As often as possible I have included a line the the "main article", around Acadia, Mikmaq, history, and communities.

I think good one to two line summaries are all that is needed for each main point of history and culture with links to the relevent articles.

Where it needs work: Culture. Needs to be much bigger. Famous People From is a great section, there is none. Climate and Geography. The section is basically empty.

The whole thing needs a good edit, section by section.

Some copyright released photos might be nice, if someone could provide em. A shot of the esplanade or the waterfront, maybe.... a shot of the city from across the harbour? Louisbourg? Rita's Tea Room?

WayeMason 14:38, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Savoy Theatre
I noticed that the internal hyperlink (not sure if that's the right terminology) for the Savoy Theatre takes you to the page for the Savoy in London, England. I would edit it, but I'm not sure how to remove that link, or how to create one that says there's no article, but gives someone a chance to write one. Can anyone fix this?

Update: Since there is no wikipedia page for the Savoy Theatre (something hopefully to change in the future) I have removed the internal link as it pointed to a page that doesn't exist.(Mileages (talk) 06:59, 12 August 2012 (UTC))

"Racial" Statistics
Hi all. I just removed a list of "Racial" statistics that were unsourced. I believe that had been manufactured from several other data sources, and contained a statistic for "White" that was very troubling - on the census, there is a question about visible minority. If you answer that you are not a visible minority (which might be true or not - you might be mixed-race, or you might not feel that you wanted to talk about the issue) then you you are included as "not visible minority". Also, aboriginal Canadians are explicitly not included as a visible minority - so those who answer with information about aboriginal origins also go into the "not vis-min" category. However, many people (including the author who put this here, I think) assume that means "White". It doesn't. Personally, I don't think that we should have "racial" statistics here at all - I've removed them, and tried to put another line or two into the "Ethnic Origin" stats, because I think that they're more useful. I understand that this might be contentious for some people, but I'm happy to discuss it. Please feel free to respond here, or on my talk page: AshleyMorton (talk) 12:55, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Rename and Move to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia 2014

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. There is clear consensus that proposed title is not sufficiently unambiguous. Staberinde (talk) 18:33, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Cape Breton Regional Municipality → Cape Breton, Nova Scotia – The name should reflect the single name like Halifax, Nova Scotia and Queens, Nova Scotia. Easternhfx (talk) 23:59, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure. I was the one who (most recently, the successful move) proposed the Halifax move. However, I'm not sure that it's true that people use just the term "Cape Breton" when they mean this specific area. It seems to me that most people who use the phrase "Cape Breton" on it's own are talking about the island, not the County/RM. If it had been renamed the "Sydney Regional Municipality", then I might agree with you, but I think that the "place" (take that in a general sense) called "Cape Breton" is, in most people's mind, the island or maybe the specific point of land at the end of the island. AshleyMorton (talk) 19:15, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * For now, I say oppose unless the discussion to follow changes my mind. I really don't know what changing the article name will accomplish, other than to cause confusion as to what the article is about because Cape Breton, Nova Scotia sounds more like the entire Island, not just the area that makes up the CBRM. Victoria County, Richmond County, Inverness County and Port Hawkesbury are also in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia but not the CBRM. Wouldn't they still be in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia if the CBRM name was changed? If the change is made than we would have to somehow distinguish in the opening that Cape Breton, Nova Scotia is not Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, but only part of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. See how confusing this could be? Also looking at the bigger picture here, we have a new editor account that appears to have been created with the purpose of changing the name of articles because the HRM article name was changed. Is changing the name of this article to make a point really the way this should be done? Cmr08 (talk) 03:36, 16 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak Oppose Cape Breton is an island in Nova Scotia, therefore the proposed name is ambiguous disambiguation. To most people it would refer to the island. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 05:52, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Strongly Support "Cape Breton, Nova Scotia" should be the proper title and it follows the Halifax, Nova Scotia change for Halifax Regional municipality and Queens, Nova Scotia for region of queens . Cape Breton Regional Municipality is too compilicaed for the title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Easternhfx (talk • contribs) 12:18, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Argyle, Nova Scotia,West Hants, Nova Scotia,St. Mary's, Nova Scotia,Guysborough, Nova Scotia,East Hants, Nova Scotiaand Clare, Nova Scotia are no different than Cape Breton Regional Municipalityor Halifax Regional Municipality and CBRM article title is not within the rules of Wikipedia.
 * What you are saying is not within Wikipedia-land, because "there are no rules". Your comparison of regional municipalities with regional districts is also apples and oranges plus a few kumquats.  The CBRM is *NOT* all of Cape Breton Island, never mind the Cape Breton region which includes more than the island.  The two terms are *NOT* equatable.Skookum1 (talk) 05:59, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose Unlike Halifax they did not change their branding. Also that region isn't generally known as Cape Breton. It would be commonly known as Sydney. The entire island would be more commonly known as Cape Breton, Nova Scotia not just the CBRM which only takes up a small part of the island. -DJSasso (talk) 12:37, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Then why is the Halifax Regional Municipality still using on halifax.ca still using Halifax regional Municipality ? Do your homework . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Easternhfx (talk • contribs) 20:26, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Because they are not done yet. They are still in the process of coming up with slogan etc and sites won't be updated until the process is completed which will be a couple of months. Do your research. -DJSasso (talk) 03:00, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose. As observed, Port Hawkesbury is not in the CBRM, along with a lot of other places on Cape Breton Island or in the culture-area known as Cape Breton (which includes the 'Nish which is on the mainland).  This is not the same as the HRM/Halifax merger (which I opposed) or, for example, the comparison to Clare. There's a difference between regions and regional municipalities (and counties or, as with Clare, municipalities that cover agglomerations of distinct places within them), wiki-fudging/merging them is not part of reality.  This is like renaming the Fraser Valley the Fraser Valley Regional District or vice-versa; the FVRD only covers the eastern half of the Fraser Valley; the Comox Valley Regional District includes areas on the west coast of Vancouver Island which are not part of the Comox Valley region.  Merging/renaming without thinking or knowing is the bane of Wikipedia (one among many).Skookum1 (talk) 01:51, 17 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose. As noted by others, "Cape Breton" is just as likely or more likely to refer to CBI or the cape itself.  —  AjaxSmack   15:14, 18 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose Good points made above and need no further explanation IMO. Regards Aloha27 (talk) 23:52, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose Per others. Citobun (talk) 13:32, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
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