Talk:Cappuccino

Cappuccino and kaputziner
I think Austria should be removed, the sources make it clear cappuccino is a different kind of drink 79.54.217.132 (talk) 00:40, 9 February 2024 (UTC)


 * It's actually the same thing. Capuccino is a direct translation of the German word 2800:430:1384:A210:1B:F0FF:FEB5:3CB1 (talk) 00:52, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * No it's not. The beverage is very different 79.54.217.132 (talk) 00:53, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Exactly, they aren't the same thing! JacktheBrown (talk) 17:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Sapsby, do you realise that you have imposed your personal vision, deleted several times (also by Vaselineeeeeeee), regarding a discussion started in February (here)? In this encyclopedia we don't accept authoritarian people, but people capable of discussing without imposing their own changes. JacktheBrown (talk) 17:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

The picture is of a latte
The picture is not a cappuccino it's a latte. If it has latte art and you can't see the texture of the foam it's not a cappuccino. I agree it is often what you get if you ask for one in the UK or US. 2A00:23EE:1480:3569:2E06:AFAB:323A:786 (talk) 13:38, 7 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Agree, have edited to pictures of cappucinos, except for the section on "latte art" although I'm not sure why that is even in this wiki - it should be in Latte or flat white. 59.101.150.112 (talk) 02:20, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Unsure what to do about the section "Traditional and latte art" which is clearly describing making a café latte or flat white with the "latte art" method.  This section shouldn't even be in this wiki. 59.101.150.112 (talk) 08:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Had some time to rewrite quite a lot of the article. Fixed this section in particular. I'm worried about this text:" Attaining the correct volume and thickness of foam requires close attention while steaming the milk, thus making the cappuccino one of the most difficult espresso-based beverages to make properly."
 * Firstly, [citation needed]! Secondly, I personally find doing the milk for making a latte or flat white with latte art is much harder - many other baristas I work with struggle with it.  A cap is easy, just blow some air into the milk while heating and it makes the foam. 59.101.150.112 (talk) 10:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I have, a few minutes ago, changed the image (File:Cappuccino at Sightglass Coffee.jpg), much more beautiful. JacktheBrown (talk) 23:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

CONSENSUS FIRST
The Sapsby user has been writing for several weeks that the cappuccino was born in Austria. Almost all sources claim that the cappuccino originated in Italy; according to this source, "Although the name 'Kapuziner' was used in Vienna, the actual cappuccino was invented in Italy, and the name was adapted to become 'Cappuccino.' It was first made in the early 1900a, shortly after the popularization of the espresso machine in 1901. The first record of the cappuccino we have found was in the 1930s.", cappuccino originated in Italy. I don't know what to do anymore; I wrote to him to first reach a consensus on the discussion page, but he continues undaunted. I'm not the only one who advised him to discuss first on the discussion page (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cappuccino&diff=prev&oldid=1223987338). I would also like to talk about Eduadoros; on the bagna càuda page there are many open discussions about the origin, but this user decided to add his information without first reaching a consensus on the discussion page. JacktheBrown (talk) 12:54, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Cappuccino comes from German Kapuziner. Remember that one part of Italy was under Austrian power in this time, it is clearly explained that the beverage called Kapuziner was introduced to Italy by Austrians and then the name was "italianized".
 * Kapuziner is exactly a cappuccino, you can read it here
 * Which point don't you agree with? Sapsby (talk) 13:13, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Actually Italian cappucino is different from Kapuziner 62.211.180.100 (talk) 17:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes it is separate Kapuziner (Kaffee). Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 00:16, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have put a reference in this discussion showing that it is exactly the same. Differences could appear with time because of modernization of the techniques used but it is originally from Austria. You seem to forget that Italy did not exist as a nation in the 18th century, the north of Italy was also part of the Austrian empire. Sapsby (talk) 09:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * stop adding "Austria" in the infobox, stop! You also removed "Italy" from the infobox of the espresso page; what will be your next move? JacktheBrown (talk) 15:49, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Finally, you have decided to respond. I have already explained here why I included Austria. In my opinion, Italy should be removed as the origin is only Austria. However, I have included both countries to maintain a more neutral position Sapsby (talk) 15:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * my position remains the same, and I think you don't like Italy; I give up (for me you're a user who creates a lot of confusion, but it's my personal idea, perhaps wrong). JacktheBrown (talk) 16:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * it's not an accusation, but a doubt. Have you edited from this IP? Special:Contributions/190.63.96.117; the changes are very similar. Answer sincerely. JacktheBrown (talk) 17:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No, why? Sapsby (talk) 08:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * perfect, thank you. JacktheBrown (talk) 14:17, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

“Ingredients”
The ingredients section is incredibly confusing - it never explicitly says the ingredients and is also written like an essay. Bonelesssboiz (talk) 00:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree! JacktheBrown (talk) 02:43, 3 June 2024 (UTC)