Talk:CaptainSparklez/Archive 1

Accomplishment
He has also the Golden Youtube Playbutton for reaching the 1 million subscribers. I think that should be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaflow (talk • contribs) 13:32, 25 December 2012 (UTC) got any diamonds???? in minecraft — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.46.35 (talk) 09:37, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism
I'm fairly certai is not supposed to be there, but when trying to revert it I couldn't find it in the edit section... Also, the table doesn't seem to appear and some of the text in the sex section appears to be rather large. Could something be done about all this? 94.11.179.246 (talk) 20:55, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Person of non importance
I fail to grasp how this person is of importance, as opposed to this being wrote more of an advertisement of a youtuber. ExtremeRobot (talk) 20:24, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * He was featured in google's year in review. That right there is notable. he got 100 million views in one of his videos too.ElectroPro (talk) 21:25, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Clean up
This article was a shameless piece of fluff which misrepresented and overstated sources. I've removed sources that did not mention the subject of the article. Other sources make only a one sentence mention of Moran or Captain Sparklez. The article is now clear and concise and accurately reflects the sources. I'd like to AfD this article but its already been there once so I'll refrain. This person has received some slight pop culture notability for creating a single YouTube video. His life has no other media significance or notability. If the AfD vote is to keep, then OK, but the article should be brief and free of promo fluff.-- — Keithbob • Talk  • 19:40, 1 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Maybe we should do an entire re-write of this article Evoogd20 02:44, 3 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evoogd20 (talk • contribs)
 * If there are additional reliable sources we could add them along with corresponding text. Are there more sources? Not sure I see any reason for a "re-write" but I'm open to discussion. What do you think is lacking in the current version? (please be specific) Thanks,-- — Keithbob • Talk  • 17:28, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Deciding on removing the infobox picture. Seems copyrighted and not a great picture for a BLP. ///Euro Car  GT  02:30, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Image removed per F7. ///Euro Car  GT  21:27, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Unnecessary Citation needed
Yeah, there's a pointless "Citation needed" at the end of the article when it lists his YouTube videos. The information is accessible on his YouTube, Facebook and Twitter accounts, and is common knowledge.

Additionally, it's worth mentioning that his most popular video, Revenge, is currently one of the highest, if not the highest, video game related video on the site. 2601:9:3D00:5E8:146D:4C1F:ECA5:9939 (talk) 17:18, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Biography
This page relates mainly to Captiansparkelz rather than Jordan Maron. Jordan himself uploaded a video describing his background and life growing up. I believe that this video would be a good source to the page. Calibreslicer (talk) 07:19, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

pixelspark
y cant i update pixel spark — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.33.83.23 (talk) 21:52, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * because the page is locked because of persistent vandalism. You can make a suggestion here and someone will review it for appropriateness. Note that content suggestions need to be validated by a reliably published source. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  22:18, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

The legal battle
I'd like to put in something about how YouTube deleted the video after it's initial posting and how, after quite a large legal battle, Jordan was allowed to re-post the video. The video had 5 million views before the initial deletion, and has amassed 32 million plus views afterward. I couldn't because I couldn't figure out where the links stopped and the text began, as well as where to put it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TylerinBellevue (talk • contribs) 16:27, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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Requested move
This page should be moved to CaptainSparklez. Larsconks (talk) 23:51, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Please follow the instructions at WP:RM and provide a valid reason for the move you wish to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 23:52, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Minecraft Style
The original video was "privated" just like Revenge and TNT. He even has a video explaining that one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXTFFUz1L-k, he also mentions it having around 40 million views in this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWJAbN62yxg&t=83s

I do not trust my grammar enough to properly fix the section myself and am requesting a fix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.121.129.154 (talk) 20:04, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 21 March 2018

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 17:39, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Jordan Maron → CaptainSparklez – Per WP:COMMONNAME. He is much better recognised as CaptainSparklez than by his real name, in sources and general media. The opening statement of this article even sates this.  Lazz _R  14:00, 21 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose - We don't conflate the act with the actor. We don't conflate the channel operator with the channel name. This person's main website is jordanmaron.com, has a music channel and a vlog channel which use his real name, has won awards using his real name, and is generally presented as that in reliable secondary sources. "CaptainSparklez" is just an alias, not a stagename. -- Netoholic @ 15:13, 21 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2018
190.53.247.178 (talk) 18:21, 10 July 2018 (UTC) Captainsparklez is the 245th most subscribed channel not 242nd
 * Yes check.svg Done --Danski454 (talk) 18:26, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2018
Insert this image into the sidebar https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/566e4d1d44fd0309aef8eec509192607/5BFBFDCC/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/s640x640/34666792_196974851132361_4722696783996649472_n.jpg

Permission from Jordan Maron himself (at 10:24 timestamp) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROLRtjnAe-o

Image source is here https://www.instagram.com/p/Bjv5d0WlGOC/?hl=en&taken-by=jordanmaron at verified Instagram Diamondmix (talk) 23:04, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * No. "For Wikipedia" is not a valid release. --Majora (talk) 04:05, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Add Image to Protected Article
Jordan Maron has given expressive permission to Wikipedia and Wikimedia to display any image of himself on Instagram (therefore, making the images Public Domain as Wikipedia expressively requests the images to be.

Wikipedia User Majora however refuses to accept this and this Wikipedia User requests external support.

DeJayDev (talk) 05:45, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, the explicit permission was given in this video - timecode included. There is ZERO excuse for removing photos! Put... them... back. --TakeruDavis (talk) 06:39, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Please see the notice now at the top of this talk page. -- The SandDoctor Talk 06:49, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2018
Jordsn Maron made a request in a recent YouTube video to add this headshot to this article: File:Jordan Maron.jpg ChrisJElledge (talk) 09:04, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Please follow the advice given in the messagebox on top of this page. What is needed is a completely free license (including all usages on- and off-Wiki) and the clear verification of such an explicit permission via mail or on the source site. GermanJoe (talk) 11:06, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2018
Change Infobox image from BLANK to He's Twitter profile picture

Add the social media account links (he owns): - Twitter: https://twitter.com/CaptainSparklez - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordanmaron/ - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CaptainSparklez - Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/CaptainSparklez/ - Youtube (Personal): https://www.youtube.com/JordanMaron - Youtube (Business): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCshoKvlZGZ20rVgazZp5vnQ

(He gave permission to add he's twitter picture to be posted on wikipedia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROLRtjnAe-o at timestamp: 10:35) UltraGameCoder (talk) 13:32, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Please see the above sections and notice at the top of this talk page.  The SandDoctor  Talk 13:37, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2018
nevermind you already said no mr. moderators KloudAlpha (talk) 09:33, 17 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your understanding. Hopefully someone can contact Jordan and help him with a properly licensed and verified upload. GermanJoe (talk) 11:10, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hopefully. I have emailed his listed business email and know of at least one other who has posted on his subreddit. Hopefully if enough people reach out with the correct information he will either see it himself or it will be brought to his attention. There isn't that much that he has to do to release it. -- The SandDoctor Talk 13:38, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2018
Add a picture. Samuellhwarren (talk) 17:00, 17 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Please make your request for a new image to be uploaded to Files For Upload. Once the file has been properly uploaded, feel free to reactivate this request to have the new image used. Danski454 (talk) 17:09, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2018
As shown in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROLRtjnAe-o) Jordan Maron has given express permission for Wikipedia to use his Twitter and Instagram photos. Here is a photo that I think should be added to his profile IonImpulse (talk) 23:08, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * "For Wikipedia" is not a valid release. Do not upload photos unless you know what you are doing please. --Majora (talk) 04:06, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you be a little more verbose about what do you actually need, so we could give Jordan feedback on what he needs to do to have a photo here? --TakeruDavis (talk) 06:42, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Specifically, we need him to send an email to ' with this email template' and the photograph he wants to upload attached to the email. The email template is carefully formulated to release his legal rights in a way that is compatible with Wikipedia (e.g. under a Creative Commons license, irrevocably allowing anyone'', not just Wikipedia, to use the photograph for any purpose). Ensure that this is a photograph which he took himself and owns the copyright for. Mz7 (talk) 06:47, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Now that I think about it, alternatively he could just state, either verbally or in text, that a specific image is "released under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license". This is probably simpler than an email. Mz7 (talk) 06:58, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for listing both options, I will forward this information to him right away. I had some thought about it in the meantime and I am guessing the need for fully open permissions is because people want to use Wikipedia as source for their own articles and they would not be allowed to use the photo, if there was a "Wiki-exclussive" license, is that right? --TakeruDavis (talk) 07:13, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, exactly. We want Wikipedia to be as free and open as possible. I’m really sorry for all this complication. Copyrights can get messy that way. Mz7 (talk) 07:20, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks. Glad we could clear this up. --TakeruDavis (talk) 07:33, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for giving instructions. Please also note,  that only the copyright holder can change image's copyright status. This is generally the photographer, not the person in the photo. I've looked at Jordan's photos like he asked you all to and a good majority of them he does not have the right to release to us. They are very clearly taken by someone else. If he is going to release a photo to us he would have also had to have been the photographer (there are other ways but that is the most straight forward). If you have further questions please let us know and we'll be happy to help. --Majora (talk) 11:40, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Uuhhh... wow, was not kidding, copyright is messier than toddler's diaper. All the rules around it feel like an elaborate prank. So, in other words, the easiest approach for Jordan would be to either make a selfie or have someone take a new photo and on the spot also record the photographer say the photo is for public use? --TakeruDavis (talk) 14:06, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Heh, yeah that does sound like the easiest approach. Basically, we want a photograph which he is the owner of and thus has the authority to release the copyright for. Mz7 (talk) 15:32, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah...copyright is one of the most complex, and at time illogical, things we have to deal with here, . You can thank Congress for that. At least we don't have to deal with international copyrights. Those are their own, very large, can of worms. Speaking of illogical, wording would matter a great deal if you want to do the second option you mentioned. "Public use" means nothing. "Public domain" would be better. "This photo is under the CC0 (pronounced CC Zero) license" would be best. So if you are looking to go down route B keep that in mind. Having Jordan just take a selfie would probably be the better option to be honest. He can pick whatever free license he wants and just put "I release this photo under the " in a caption next to it. We recommend the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license. Either way, once something usable is posted somewhere let us know and we can handle the upload and make sure it is right. --Majora (talk) 16:09, 17 August 2018 (UTC)


 * To quote: Take my Twitter photo, which I own all the rights to, and put it on Wikipedia  Nixinova   T   C  20:13, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * To quote myself. "For Wikipedia" type releases are not acceptable here. Period. Not quite sure how many times I have to say that. Do NOT reupload images that have been removed due to copyright issues. --Majora (talk) 20:53, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Jordan personally requested a picture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROLRtjnAe-o at 10:24 Jordan Maron rants about the lack of a picture on his Wiki, let's fix this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:16A0:70A0:D816:C4B8:6B45:DE60 (talk) 05:13, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Please see the notice at the top of this talk page. -- The SandDoctor Talk 01:06, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2018
Jordan Maron has personally requested in his most recent video to have an image added. I submit https://imgur.com/a/ixbjrVr as he stated any picture I could get off his instagram is fine. Cinimodaz (talk) 01:28, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Read the notice on the top of the page please. That isn't a proper release statement and we cannot accept it. --Majora (talk) 01:31, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2018
Add an image below the name Here is an image he uses on his twitter: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/901914653415981056/VmwDFG8M_400x400.jpg Svessinn (talk) 10:07, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: See previous messages and the messagebox on top of this talkpage. GermanJoe (talk) 11:00, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Picture (again)
So, just wanted to ask whether approval process just takes long and it did not get processed yet by some committee or did Jordan mess up something again and forgot to mention it :D --TakeruDavis (talk) 20:37, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Taking a look at the Wikimedia page, it looks like he submitted it through email himself and the image is now all good under CC-BY-SA-4.0! Zoom  ( talk page ) 18:24, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

GameChanger Charity
CaptainSparklez is on the board of directors of GameChanger Charity. https://gamechangercharity.org/team/Wikidavejr (talk) 17:15, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Channel names for YouTubers? Why no consistency?
We need to be consistent. We need to have a policy. We must choose a template for all YouTuber articles, but which?


 * The articles must always be based upon real name, if possible.
 * The articles must always be based upon the channel with the most subscribers and/or the first one created (we can debate this, depending on the YouTuber).

I support the real names idea. Where can we go to have this debate? My talk page? Or should we just discuss every YouTuber article on WP on Maron's talk page? This has been the wiki Ice Key. Thanks for reading. (talk) 16:19, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Creeper, Aw Man
As some of you already know, The "Creeper, Aw Man" meme has taken off recently. Although Jardon did post the video, I don't believe it was his doing that made it into a meme. I believe it would be appropriate to mention the meme regarding his music video, however, I don't think this article requires too much information.

Over time, people might try to add more information about the meme to this page. If the Revenge section of this article get flooded with information about the meme, I am unsure if it should be kept of removed.

The main reason I don't think the Revenge section to go too much in detail about the meme is that it was not Jardon's doing that made it a meme. This article is focused Jardon himself, his work, and his affiliations. Revenge was one of his (along with a few others') works, and it's completely appropriate that the work is included in the article. The meme, however, was not created by Jardon. Sure, the meme is about one of his works, but this article shouldn't give him all the credit. Of course, a small mention of the meme, maybe in the form of a single sentence, is perfectly acceptable in my books, but again, I don't think it would make sense to go too much into detail.

What do you guys think? Should this kind of information be kept or removed when it's added? --User:Diriector Doc (talk · contribs) 20:26, August 1, 2019 (UTC)
 * See WP:10YEARTEST. In short, no.  General Ization  Talk  20:17, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

View Count?
When was the last time the view count for each of the music videos was updated? A quick glance shows the numbers changed a lot and should be updated. Dmendoza3 (talk) 22:31, 26 August 2019 (UTC)


 * There is now a ref note for each view count. The note says "as of " and can be updated easily once the view count needs updating.--Diriector Doc (talk) 21:29, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2019
Revenge regained popularity in late July 2019 due to a Discord meme where you put each lyric into the chat. 2605:6000:1105:823F:D0B4:7EE:ECE:6EBB (talk) 19:56, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * What specific change do you want to make, and what reliable source can you provide to verify this change? The Mirror Cracked (talk) 20:07, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Not much can be added as stated above. Unless an edit can be made that is not recentism, I suggest we leave it as is. If for other reasons may it stay, I see no problem with its addition.--Diriector Doc (talk) 02:23, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Height of Jordan Maron
Maron's height has been confirmed to be 5'7" and should be inserted in the summary.

Lorentary (talk) 13:26, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Contribs ━━━┥ 17:57, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The source is more of an in-depth analysis rather than an actual study. Also, you cited social media, which isn't the best primary sources. Although the analysis could very well be correct, it is not wise to use Reddit as a source of general information. -- Diriector_Doc ┝Talk