Talk:Captain America and The Avengers

Infobox art
The reason why I replaced the cover artwork for the SNES version of Captain America with the international flier for the arcade version is because Captain America and the Avengers was an arcade game first, and an SNES game later. Its the same reason we don't replace movie posters for theatrical films in favor of home video covers.

Also, the SNES version was not even developed by Data East themselves, but it was licensed to Mindscape and developed by Real Time. If some editor is going to insist on using a cover art for a console version, at least use the Genesis version, which came first and was actually developed internally by Data East. Jonny2x4 (talk) 17:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

NES
NES version was a lot better... Maybe someone know, what enemy's bosses are here, and playable for 2 Player? Bulbman is Wizard (I think), Mummy is Ultron (I think), but who is that Strongman? Unplayable bosses are Mandarin and Red Skull. It would be nice, if someone can add these informations to article. 89.77.94.33 (talk) 03:15, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, he was called "Crossbones" in the game. But I have no idea who he is. I read the article here, but I am not sure are they the same character —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.189.191.153 (talk) 16:03, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 01:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Captain America and the Avengers → Captain America and The Avengers — "The" should be capitalized: "The Avengers" is a proper noun. Relisted.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 14:21, 15 October 2010 (UTC) Hornpipe2 (talk) 16:23, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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Support as avenger fan I notice that they usually capitalize the T —Preceding unsigned comment added by JDDJS  (talk • contribs)  02:23, 16 October 2010  (UTC)
 * Support - even though it jars to capitalise the definite article like that, it does appear to be the "correct" title, based on these sources: .  &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 19:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - WP:MOSTM has more; as you say it is jarring to see it wrong like that. ErikHaugen (talk) 07:35, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That guideline says nothing about the definite article, so far as I can see. PC78 (talk) 18:48, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Pardon, my point in bringing WP:MOSTM up is that it says "choose the style that most closely resembles standard English, regardless of the preference of the trademark owner"; ie, if a trademark owner likes to capitalize the in the middle of a title just for fun then that does not mean the Wikipedia article should capitalize it in the title. WP:CAPS would be the guideline talking about definite articles in titles. Now, also see THE - I think the is actually not part of the title of this group, see Avengers - ie, Avengers is more like the Eurythmics not like The Beatles. Otherwise I would agree with you. ErikHaugen (talk) 20:48, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If you look at the actual comic book covers at Avengers (comics) you can see that "The" explicitly is part of the title, i.e. The Avengers is like The Beatles, not Eurythmics. PC78 (talk) 22:30, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure - they put a The on the cover, but if it was an essential part of the title how can you explain the marvel website Avengers? ErikHaugen (talk) 23:29, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The comics books are the primary source, not the website. PC78 (talk) 00:06, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why that matters; in any case I think it makes sense to consider what the creators say the name of the group is. ErikHaugen (talk) 08:04, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * They say so quite clearly on the cover of the comic books. PC78 (talk) 11:31, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. Definite article is part of the title. Likewise it should be The Avengers (comics), not Avengers (comics). PC78 (talk) 18:48, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * See above, I think it's right the way it is, per THE: see Avengers. ErikHaugen (talk) 20:48, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. -- Ja Ga talk 12:38, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

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Release citation
There are a couple of sites which list the release as October 1991, but they all clearly just copy one another, listing the same bits of trivia -- 'released Oct 91... high score... "Airheads"... music video... -- some unknown being the originator. It would be nice to establish this as fact. It would be even nicer to establish a date; takemeback.to mentions it on their entry for October 29, 1991, but only that you'd be playing it, not really that it was first in gamerooms then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.252.156.11 (talk) 22:20, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Edit: Okay... I expanded the release info and saw the Japanese citation; that's something, though acknowledged that there are inaccuracies even in the Japanese listings, but it does say it uses industry sources so October '91 is acceptable. It'd still be nice to narrow it to a day. (Obviously, I'm a fan. Happy 30th, CapAven!) 198.252.156.11 (talk) 22:35, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Edit 2: imdb.com lists its US release as Dec. 1, 1991, but grrr! -- no citation; Japanese release is still just Oct. 91. WhereTF was all this info earlier this year, or before, when scouring the web??! (So see? takemeback.to's "in-depth research" may amount to, 'well, the web says '10/91,' so it was 96.67% likely by the 29th.' ) Certainly, this is inaccurate about the US release when a US publication like RePlay or Sinclair User in the UK has it ranked in their November issue, mentioned in the Oct. issue, yes, or am I missing something about those sources? 198.252.156.11 (talk) 22:55, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

RePlay archive
So all copies of RePlay have been excised from Internet Archive in the past 5 days, and I didn't complete DLs. Does anybody have copies to resubmit at Archive.org or anywhere, particularly Oct. 1991 - Jan. 1992? 198.252.156.11 (talk) 18:46, 7 November 2021 (UTC)