Talk:Cara al Sol

I have deleted an remark against Popular Party: "Even decades after the collapse of Franco's regime, Cara al Sol is still commonly sung by members of the Spanish far-right, including Spain’s second largest political party, Partido Popular (PP)." The way I see it, is a quite-not neutral remark. Since PP "anthem" was not and, certantly, is not "Cara al sol". Basically, is a way of calling them "falangist/fascist". --80.103.137.151 02:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Somebody added ", including Spain's second largest political party, Partido Popular (PP)." The original sentence didn't make that claim. Bhumiya (said/done) 05:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

nowhere it is said that the popele singing cara ao sol "provoked ridicule". they were insulted, people didn't piss their paints laughing, it was an obvious attempt to downsize and poke the beliefs of others so i deleted it. --unsigned comment by User:200.102.87.141


 * For all either of us knows, people did piss their pants laughing, but that's beside the point. "Ridicule" is precisely what happened, however you choose to phrase it. In any case, I don't think it's POV to mention the reaction the song got. Bhumiya (said/done) 05:16, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Tune
The article says nothing about the origins of the melody. Did the falangist committee compose the melody as well as the lyrics? If not, where does it come from? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 09:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It is answered now. --Error (talk) 21:35, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Removed Irrelevancy
Someone had translated the lyrics into Italian alongsided the English translation. I have removed this, as the English translation is to clarify the song for non-Spanish- English-speakers. The Italian translation should reside in the Italian version of this page. Beau Martinez (talk) 08:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Requested move 20 July 2016

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: No move. Both sides make compelling arguments about different points of the guidelines, but there is no agreement that the proposed change better accords with policy and practice. Cúchullain t/ c 15:59, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Cara al Sol → Cara al sol – Under Spanish rules for capitalization of the titles of literary works and songs, only the first word and proper names are capitalized. As it stands it's just plain wrong, a spelling mistake, like writing "Donald trump" would be in English. deisenbe (talk) 14:05, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. As far as I know the MOS:CAPS guide recommends to treat Spanish titling under English captalization rules (example Lo Que te Conté Mientras te Hacías la Dormida) unless WP:COMMONNAME overrides it. ©   Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 22:23, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


 * "Capitalization in foreign-language titles varies, even over time within the same language; generally, retain the style of the original." That's also from MOS, section "Titles of Works" deisenbe (talk) 01:04, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Generally ≠ always, that's why I said "unless WP:COMMONNAME overrides it"--the MOS is a guide, WP:AT is a policy, and right now I see no reason to move it. Provide enough English-language reliable sources supporting the low caps and you have a point. ©   Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 22:14, 21 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Oppose per WP:UE, WP:COMMONNAME, and . English rules dictate that we capitalise using English rules even if the foreign language name does not. And to be honest, if the Spanish wanted to call their article Donald trump, and that fit with their naming rules that would be up to them. The Russians have reversed the order of his names to be Трамп, Дональд. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 14:54, 28 July 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Copyright on the lyrics
From El copyright de 'Cara al sol': por qué entonar el himno de la Falange te puede salir caro en los tribunales:
 * "La utilización de una obra sin la autorización del titular de los derechos es ilícito. Así que, quien cante Cara al sol o transcriba la obra, por ejemplo, en principio debería pagar", advierte el abogado, aunque siempre existan particularidades jurídicas. Por lo tanto, su uso en un filme es mucho más evidente y su compensación económica es mayor. "De hecho, hay muchas páginas web con la letra de la canción y no existe una orden para que las retiren", recuerda.

This is from the Spanish lawyer David Maeztu. Hence I wonder if Wikipedia can publish the lyrics and its derivations, the translations. --Error (talk) 21:14, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Translation of the Title
Isnt Facing Sunward a better trasnlation "Cara al Sol" ?