Talk:Caren Turner/Archive 2

Photo
I might be able to get a picture of her. Geraldshields11 (talk) 14:21, 8 July 2014 (UTC) : I added photo. Geraldshields11 (talk) 13:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The photo was removed due to concerns over fair use on Wikimedia Commons even though I got a letter from the subject releasing copyright. Geraldshields11 (talk) 13:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Request for Semi-protection
In Real Life, the subject of the article was threatened with possible article deletion. Geraldshields11 (talk) 13:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * requested semi-protection as of January 10, 2017. Geraldshields11 (talk) 13:48, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * As explained on RFPP, this protection was denied. RickinBaltimore (talk) 14:13, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Removed vandalism
Removed poop on this talk page. Derek M (talk) 03:28, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Behavior towards Police
Why has this page not been updated with something that has made more famous than anything else she has ever done?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/caren-turner-port-authority-new-york-new-jersey-video-cursing-police-officers/

More information on Caren Turner's abuse of position:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018/04/port_authority_commissioner_abruptly_resigns_in_wa.html

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018/04/who_is_caren_turner_and_how_did_she_become_the_sta.html
 * It has been. ―StvnW talk 18:23, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

The edit to remove web link is incorrect
The site is responding, albeit responding due to a force change on the server. The server specifically has to provide the 403 error. It is not down, and the link should be reinstated. When the domain fails to resolve, it should be removed. Likely, the server .htaccess file has specifically been altered due to the recent bad publicity. Nacman 01 (talk) 04:19, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Here is the latest web archive of the website before it went down: https://web.archive.org/web/20180315100238/http://www.turnergpa.com Derek M (talk) 04:28, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

The Tenefly Police Dept Incident Data Sheet dated 03/31/2018
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4447015/Tenafly-Police-Report-Port-Authority-commissioner.pdf as cited in https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2018/04/25/tenafly-police-report-traffic-stop-routine-until-pa-commissioner-arrived-shut-f-up/550663002/ lists Caren Turner as an ″involved person″--″mother″, and lists 3 summonses to the driver: Unclear Plate, Failure to Exhibit Current Insurance Card, and Unregistered MV. Tinted Windows were mentioned as a basis for the stop, but no summons was issued for that, apparently due to the mentioned "Touring Privileges". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.211.204.66 (talk) 06:47, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion
Suggesting deletion of biography. "articles for deletion" (AFD) (talk) 12:26, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * , that's at WP:AFD, but I don't think you'll have much luck there. Drmies (talk) 04:13, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Does this person meet Wikipedia standards for a biography?
It seems that this person’s only notoriety is for bad behavior in a single incident. Her political connections and local government positions are not in themseves noteworthy. I’m by no means well-versed on this criteria, and I’d be happy to learn what others may think. Edokin (talk) 01:19, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes While WP:BLP1E would suggest that the police incident should not merit a BLP if that is the only thing she is known for, her public comments as a fundraiser and activist prior to the incident establish a second point of notability, thereby cresting BLP1E. Because many of these comments are more than single quotes (such as Reuters here ), but in fact mid-length coverage of her statements and actions (e.g. three paragraphs in USA Today here ), all them in totality would suggest she is notable and known for something beyond the police incident. Neither her activism nor her police interaction is enough to warrant a WP article by itself but, together, pass the BLP1E threshold by establishing a pattern of multiple (two) points of notability. Chetsford (talk) 04:31, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I think Chetsford is correct. Drmies (talk) 04:14, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Why isn't her Jewish ethnicity mentioned?
Wikipedia always seems to mention Jewishness on biography pages - but only if the optics are 'good'.

This person is Jewish and even mentions her kids Jewishness in the video which made her famous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.67.195.202 (talk) 08:59, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Lede
This lede goes off the rails. There's no reason to cover the subject's career with such breadth and depth in the lede. I'm all for key details but this is nuts. Her Career can be handled in depth in the Career section, perhaps with a summary in the lede, along with just one or two details of the video there. We also must reserve only our most well-established facts for the lede, well-established in both accuracy and significance. Mcfnord (talk) 22:30, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I've trimmed it considerably, but what about her career is noteworthy? Perhaps she's noteworthy for a single event? If so, she might not merit a page here, while the incident might. However, I can't reconcile that with the fact she was noteworthy for being a commissioner before this incident occurred. Mcfnord (talk) 00:20, 12 July 2020 (UTC)