Talk:Carl Hoppe

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Hoppe is most definitely a notable South Texas artist, and his reputation has achieved wider regional recognition and is growing. He studied with notable artists, and has been exhibited at notable public and private venues. I just don't see how he's not 'notable' enough to have his own Wikipedia page! This is just the first version -- I'll improve it as I go, and I'll add things that demonstrate his notability better.

I don't want this to come across wrong, but my experience on Wikipedia has led me to occasionally question the basis for editors' judgment of notability -- in this case, art critics judge this artist as notable, so I would ask that the editor apply the appropriate standards for judging notability of artists, as they do to people from other walks of life. Cohee (talk) 02:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, a strong indicator of lack of notability would be a reference that reads, Obituaries, Classifieds Section. One would think that of the man was indeed notable, the obituary would have been outside the classifieds. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 02:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

That's exactly what I mentioned about basis for judging notability -- all that documentation about his works, his exhibits, published references about him and his works, famous artists he studied and worked with, and he's judged "not notable" based on where his obituary was published in the newspaper! The Express-News put all obituaries in the section with the Classifieds on the front page of the section -- there may have been a front page article about him, but his obituary was in the Obituaries section. Not everyone even gets an obituary, so the fact that he had one is exceptional in that way. I hope you will agree. Cohee (talk) 02:54, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I vote for keep. The subject for this article is notable enough. Jrcrin001 (talk) 16:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)