Talk:Carl Menckhoff

Name and date of death
Can anyone provide authoritative information on (a) whether his first name was Carl or Karl; and (b) whether he died in 1948 or 1949? There's some confusion on both points in the sources, reflected in the history of edits to this page. GrindtXX (talk) 19:56, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello, all, The source cited says 1948 was the year he died. The coda about age 65 is apparently a miscalculation by an editor, as I have found no source stating age at time of death.

Other sources also state 1948, such as http://www.flieger-album.de/geschichte/portraits/menckhoffkarl.php, Above the Lines, p. 164, and http://www.theaerodrome.com/aces/germany/menckhoff.php.

I have changed the article to 1948 and deleted reference to age at death.

Georgejdorner (talk) 23:28, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks: good work.
 * There's another anomaly over his final rank. Infobox says Oberleutnant; text says he made it to Hauptmann (but the cited source doesn't actually mention this).
 * And I'd still like to see his first name sorted out: the sources seem to be divided on this, but several respected authorities (inc. Norman Franks) prefer Carl.
 * GrindtXX (talk) 16:23, 2 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I have now seen the bio of Menckhoff in Treadwell and Wood, German Fighter Aces. I have added that to the bibliography, and supplied a few details from it. The authors spell his name Carl; and, more importantly, illustrate the bio with a signed photo, on which he himself has written Carl. I think that clinches it, and I therefore plan to move this page to Carl Menckhoff. However, I will leave it for 24 hrs in case of objections. GrindtXX (talk) 19:08, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

The signed photo is proof positive.

Georgejdorner (talk) 09:45, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Done. GrindtXX (talk) 17:45, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Date of death
Hello,

An edit summary to the article by Menckhoff's granddaughter, dated 23 December 2013, fixes Carl Menckhoff's death date at 1949. Please do not change it to 1948 to conform to sources that are mistaken.Georgejdorner (talk) 18:03, 9 October 2020 (UTC)