Talk:Carl Wilhelm Siemens

Source
This text originally came from the book Heroes of the Telegraph by John Munro, available at Project Gutenberg:. Lupo 14:14, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Is Wilhelm allowed the 'von'?
Karl Wilhelm, the brother of Ernst Werner von Siemens, died before Werner became a 'von' in 1888. There is also another Wilhelm (Georg Wilhelm) who was the son of Werner: he can use 'von' legitimately. I'm going to be bold and move the article to Karl Wilhelm Siemens. The original Wilhelm von Siemens becomes a disambig. Sadly, the Siemens company website doesn't back me on this, but I'm sending them an email. Noisy | Talk 11:51, July 15, 2005 (UTC)


 * Email responses from the Siemens archive that justify move and changes will follow in a couple of days. Noisy | Talk 17:36, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Well, it's a bit late, but here is the information that I received from the Siemens Corporate Archives:


 * "You are right, Werner von Siemens' younger brother was born Carl Wilhelm Siemens (Carl spelled with a "C") in 1823. To distinguish the two Wilhelms we use the name "Sir William Siemens" for the brother. Sir William was elevated to the knighthood by Queen Victoria in 1883. So if you are referring to him we would appreciate if you exclusively use Sir William (also before the year 1883).


 * "The name "Wilhelm von Siemens" refers to Werner's son only because after 1888 the "von" became part of the family name in Werner's line of the family tree. Indeed, Wilhelm von Siemens' full name was Georg Wilhelm von Siemens, but he was not known under this name.


 * "Also, we use Werner von Siemens and Wilhelm von Siemens before the year 1888."


 * "If you want to use Sir William's second name please use 'Carl Wilhelm' instead of 'Karl'. He was given the name Carl Wilhelm but in former days both spellings were mixed so this is why you find different spellings in different texts.

The other brother, Carl von Siemens, had the full name Carl Heinrich von Siemens. Here, you should also use the spelling Carl with a 'C' although you might find 'Karl' as well. He was enobled by Tsar Nikolaus of Russia that is why he also uses the 'von' in his name."

Beeter late than never, I say. :-) Noisy | Talk 13:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Karl Wilheim Siemens
Karl Wilhelm Siemens was a German engineer. Of his siblings, Ernst Werner Siemens, the fourth child, became a famous electrician and allowed William to be associated in many of his inventions. Siemens had been trained as a mechanical engineer, and his most important work at this stage the regenerative furnace and also the greatest achievement of his life, was non-electrical. The use of superheated steam came with many difficulties,even then the invention was not entirely successful.Nevertheless, the Society of Arts, in 1850, acknowledged the value of his workngs, by awarding Siemens a gold medal for his regenerative condenser.

In 1859 Karl Siemens devoted alot of his time to electrical invention and research; and the number of telegraph equipment of all sorts – telegraph cables, land lines, and their accessories – which have originated from the Siemens Telegraph Works is a great deal. The Siemens regenerative furnace which was first used in about October 1865, before this wood was used in fireplaces and lighted with matches.this invention was a major developent.


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 * The family must be shortened. This is an uncredible beginning! Gerhard51 21:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Prominence
I have altered the lead to give prominence to his English name, since he spent the most important part of his career as a British citizen and in GB. The final paragraph of his career is utterly inadequate in that it conflates the regererative furnace and his open-hearth steelmaking process. This needs to be expanded. I would also like comments on whther the article should be at "Carl Wilhelm Siemen" or at Charles William Siemens, which is currently a redirect. Peterkingiron (talk) 10:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

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