Talk:Carlo Visconti (cardinal)

The Medal
The medal belongs to a different Carlo Visconti, not the obscure bishop. --Vicedomino (talk) 05:51, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 6 November 2017

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The result of the move request was: MOVE. Consensus was for page to be moved (non-admin closure) ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ (talk) 15:45, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

– Following discussion at Talk:John O'Connor, it seems like "(cardinal)" is the favoured disambiguator, rather then Archbishop of New York etc. I have made a list of all cardinals (based on Category:Roman Catholic cardinals), which have a disambiguator, at User:Amakuru/Cardinals, and the vast majority already have a "(cardinal)" disambiguator, so this RM is to bring WP:CONSISTENCY in that category. Note that WP:BISHOP does not explicitly allow or disallow "cardinal" as a disambiguator, and if this RM is successful, we should probably add the convention to the rules there. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 18:35, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Carlo Visconti (bishop) → Carlo Visconti (cardinal)
 * Charles of Lorraine (bishop of Metz and Strasbourg) → Charles of Lorraine (cardinal)
 * Francesco Conti (bishop) → Francesco Conti (cardinal)
 * Gilles de Paris (bishop) → Gilles de Paris (cardinal)
 * Herman II (archbishop of Cologne) → Herman II (cardinal)
 * John Wright (bishop of Pittsburgh) → John Wright (cardinal)
 * Luigi Serafini (bishop) → Luigi Serafini (cardinal)
 * Luigi de Magistris (bishop) → Luigi de Magistris (cardinal)
 * Roger (archbishop of Benevento) → Roger (cardinal)
 * Romuald I (archbishop of Salerno) → Romuald I (cardinal)
 * Thomas Williams (Archbishop of Wellington) → Thomas Williams (cardinal)
 * Support all its simpler and it is the highest office they have held, so they will be known for it outside of their respective sees in most cases more than they will be known for being the local bishop or archbishop. Thanks to Amakuru for starting this. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:11, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Support. Seems clearer and more concise.--Cúchullain t/ c 15:01, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd strike support for the ambiguous names mentioned by below. Roger (archbishop of Benevento), Charles of Lorraine (bishop of Metz and Strasbourg) and Romuald I (archbishop of Salerno) should stay put per incomplete disambiguation, with the "(cardinal)" forms redirecting to the dab page.--Cúchullain t/ c  16:54, 8 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment. I don't think we can move Roger (archbishop of Benevento) to Roger (cardinal). Far too ambiguous. Roger Mahony is also a cardinal. There may be others. Also Charles de Lorraine de Vaudémont was also a cardinal, so Charles of Lorraine (cardinal) is likewise no disambiguator. Romuald I (archbishop of Salerno) is best left as it is, for reasons that should be obvious by looking at Romuald (disambiguation). I'm neutral on the others, although to be honest I'm not sure this move is necessary for any of them. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:32, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - I've struck Roger and Charles of Lorraine per the above. I've simplified the Romuald suggestion to "Romuald (cardinal)" because he is the only cardinal of that name. And there's no consistency needed with Romuald II, since the latter is housed at Romuald Guarna. Basically the Romuald I moniker doesn't make much sense anyway.   how's that? Thanks  &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 19:25, 11 November 2017 (UTC)


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