Talk:Carnival Sunrise

Hurricane Isabel
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/102022.jpg That's the Carnival Triumph, fleeing westward in advance of hurricane Isabel. Shouldn't Hurrican Isabel be mentioned in the article? --75.170.41.9 (talk) 03:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

In-service date
I went on one of the first sailings in the US on Triumph in August 1999, so I don't think October 1999 is correct. Anyone know the correct date? 108.25.135.226 (talk) 00:10, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Picture
The picture listing Carnival Triumph in Nova Scotia appears to actually be in Saint John NB. The Triumph regularly visited both ports in the summer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.166.241.30 (talk) 20:11, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Incident updates
Please be careful about sources for the current incident. "All safe and 4 hours from shore" is overoptimistic. The ship is close to the Alabama shore, but it will take more than 4 hours for tugs to horse a dead ship up the channel to dock in Mobile. Nobody is giving a solid ETA. "Drifting toward late night docking" Friday morning reports a local TV station. Some passengers are sick. More reliable info can be expected tomorrow. --John Nagle (talk) 23:45, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, I removed the portion of the statement that "suite passengers" were transferred to the Carnival Legend. The indicated source does not mention that.  → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 03:34, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Bad References
After making a few minor edits, I am completely removing the section that alleges the vessel had an outstanding USCG inspection-related electrical issue two weeks before the February 2013 cruise that stranded passengers and crew for 5 days in the Gulf of Mexico. There was a reference cited that linked to a Coast Guard website page for the vessel, but the information on that linked page (at http://psix.uscg.mil/PSIX/PSIXDetails.aspx?VesselID=495593) showed no such problem or violation. If the allegation is true then it would be a serious one worthy of inclusion into the article, but without a valid citation it has no place here. I am completely in favor of holding cruise lines responsible for their actions, when appropriate, but making stuff up is not acceptable here. JeffTracy (talk) 11:44, 15 February 2013 (UTC)


 * See my reply in new section immediately below. Centpacrr (talk) 12:47, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

January 28, 2013 USCG Vessel Inspection Activity Report
Click HERE to see a screen shot of the USGS Port State Control vessel inspection (USCG Activity #4523900 dated January 28, 2013) by the Texas City, TX, U.S. Coast Guard Marine Safety Unit that revealed that "a short in the high voltage connection box of one of the ships generators causing damage to cables within the connection box" which had not been resolved prior to the fire casualty at sea. To see this report on the cited page itself requires the reader to click on the "submit" button on the "Summary of Coast Guard Contacts" section after the reference page originally loads. When you do that you can see that I did not "make stuff up" and the cited reference is not "a bogus ref link to a USCG webpage", but one that requires a second action be taken to see the details of the deficiency found by the Coast Guard. (I have added a note to that effect to the reference in the article itself.) Sorry for the confusion. Centpacrr (talk) 12:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * An easier way to make this verifiable is to go to http://psix.uscg.mil/psix/psixdetails.aspx?VesselID=495593 and then to click [Submit] at the bottom of the page. Once the investigation report has been written you will be able to go to http://psix.uscg.mil/IIR/IIRSearch.aspx and enter 4523900 in the search box. At present incident 4523900 does not have a completed report and so the search comes up empty. Once the final report is posted there will be a permanent URL. --Marc Kupper&#124;talk 21:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Latest Carnival incident
The Carnival Triumph broke loose from its moorings in the BAE shipyard in Mobile during high winds. It banged around the channel for a while until pushed back by some tugs. Two workers were blown into the water when a shoreside guard shack blew into the water. One is missing. The article now has adequate coverage. Too early to discuss blame. --John Nagle (talk) 19:04, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Propulsion Issues
It might be worthy to note the Triumph's propulsion issues began prior to January, 2013. It experienced a propulsion issue during the December 8, 2012 sailing. This issue arose between Progreso and Cozumel. The ship was scheduled to depart Cozumel at approximately 5:00 pm on December 11th. At around 5:00 pm, passengers were informed of an issue with the propulsion system (the ship could not reach cruising speed). A propulsion specialist was flown in, and the ship departed Cozumel around 9:00 pm. Arrival into Galveston was delayed by about 6 hours. This is a first-hand account. VBanister (talk) 06:23, 23 July 2013 (UTC)