Talk:Carol Kaye

Controversy over credits
I'm aware this issue has been discussed before. If reliable sources to justify the allegations against Ms Kaye are not provided, I will remove the section per policy at WP:BLP. Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:39, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Would a sworn affidavit by the guy who was with one of the tracks she claimed to play bass on from writing it through recording to actually boxing up the single and mailing it be considered a "reliable source" ? Would Carol Kaye herself admitting she never set foot in Detroit - ever - be considered a "reliable source" ? Would her former colleagues in The Wrecking Crew denying they played on tracks she claimed they did along with her be considered a "reliable source" ? This controversy is based on an established fact: Carol Kaye did NOT play on ANY of the MoTown hits she claimed she did. She also never played on at least two Beach Boys tracks she claims to ("Surfin' USA" & "I Was Made To Love Her", as established by the musician contracts) and some Jan & Dean trcaks as well ("Surf City, for example). These are not up for discussion: they are facts. Andrew G. Doe (talk) 07:51, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

So.... "facts" are not up for discussion? Wikipedia is more about sources than facts. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 16:50, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Wichita Lineman credit and sources
Why is the Don Bagley credit given prominence? The ref to Rhinestone Cowboy makes no sense to me
 * Don Bagley played bass on Wichita Lineman. Carol Kaye played percussion. See link to contract for session work - :http://www.wreckingcrewfilm.com/afmcontracts/Campbell,Glen_WichitaLineman.pdf and "Rhinestone Cowboy" (Glen Campbell)

On Carol Kaye site http://www.carolkaye.com/www/library/faq.htm FAQ 10 I never forgot what a thrill it was to cut "Wichita Lineman" for Glen. And yes, he borrowed my Dano 6-stg. bass guitar to play his famous solo on (also for Galveston).

Here is a clip of Carol Kaye showing her intro to Wichita Lineman http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p013nf55

On Carol Kaye site on the bongos credit FAQ 30 is the (note: Am listed as bongos player on a great deal of the Ray Charles hit records contracts!) Carol Kaye says http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/carol-kaye-my-10-greatest-recordings-of-all-time-508956/7 and lists her playing on the song as in her top 10 http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/carol-kaye-my-10-greatest-recordings-of-all-time-508956/7 the wiki page Wichita Lineman has Carol Kaye as bass guitar

I will clip from article insert it here and edit Davdevalle (talk) 14:33, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Would some of the discussion here even be the slightest relevant if she had been a man? But she is a woman, and a woman does not contribute to rock music. is that what some of you think?! This woman has done more to the music inustry than a bunch of notorious guys. That´s for sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.194.191.191 (talk) 00:49, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

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Elvis Presley,
I have removed Elvis from the list because according to Jorgensen, Elvis Presley: A Life in Music, The Complete Recording Sessions, forward by Peter Guralnick, St. Martin’s Press, New York, 1998, the only session she was booked in for Elvis was Aug 22, 1967 and it was cancelled, and she still got paid a 3 hour minimum. If there are others please let us know. Carptrash (talk) 18:12, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Disputes
I have noticed a trend for several things on this article recently:


 * 1) The linking of YouTube clips that are copyright violations. Please don't do this, they can't be used on a free encyclopedia. This link has more information.
 * 2) All information must comply with the biographies of living people. In particular, note, "We must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources." Edits that do not cite sources, or cite questionable ones may potentially contain libel and will need to be removed. Ritchie333 (talk)  (cont)  14:42, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

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"Surfin' USA"
Carol has claimed for decades that she's playing on the Beach Boys version of this, also claiming Billy Strange was at the session too. The AFM contract lists only The Beach Boys, and David Marks confirms there was no woman at the recording session. My guess was that she played on a cover version, thinking it was the BB recording, and the earliest such cover I could find was by The Hot Doggers, released in spring 1963. This group was actually a bunch of studio musicians assembled by Terry Melcher & Bruce Johnston. Taken me a few years but very recently I got hold of the AFM contracts for the album, and guess what? There's Carol Kaye & Billy Strange on guitars at the March 12th session (eight days after the BB single was released). That's that sorted, then. Andrew G. Doe (talk) 12:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)