Talk:Caroline Righton

Need for article/blanking of page
Caroline Righton Does not want to have a Wikipedia Page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabkol (talk • contribs) 00:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not up to her. Wikipedia has strong policies about the content of biographies of living persons, so please do feel free to correct any factual inaccuracies or any lack of neutrality of its presentation.  But blanking the article is not an option.  She is a notable person.  -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 00:36, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


 * How can it not be up to her? surely she can choose what on here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabkol (talk • contribs) 00:48, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * She has more control about what appears on here than she does over the news, but she does not control whether or not information appears at all. She is a notable public figure. She does, however, have control over the accuracy of the information presented, if anything in the article is inaccurate. I mention the news comparison in my first sentence to make my basic point -- no, she cannot choose whether or not she has an article on here, just as she cannot choose whether or not the news, or any other public source, releases information on her. Ginsengbomb (talk) 00:52, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Are you the Anon editor who blanked the page on 1st October? As users Escape Orbit and Ginsengbomb have pointed out, she passes the criteria for WP:notability. However, be aware that: (1) continually blanking the page will get you banned, (2) As you claim to work for Caroline Righton, you may be blocked from editing this page through rules on WP:BIAS. As has been pointed out, you or Caroline Righton can point out issues of inaccuracy which can be quickly modified. I would also advise, having been involved with other pages where users where concerned about content inclusion or editing by those with an agenda, that there are other rules and outlined ways of dealing with concerns of those who have articles at Wikipedia. If you could communicate here or to one of us on our talk pages what these concerns are, perhaps we could address these directly. Not having a page is not an option, but making sure it is accurate and managing it carefully are all covered within our rules. If you have any questions, happy to chat. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 10:02, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Blogosphere incident
I have kept this article under watch since the last set of incidents, and noted the addtion tonight of the following text by Earsaplenty:


 * In October 2009, she was subject to sustained and serious criticism in the blogosphere after falsely accusing one of her opponents of publically insulting her. Righton had sent to a residents' association a tweet from her Liberal Democrat opponent pointing out that she had gone to a media event instead of the association's meeting. The tweet, however, had been modified to add an insult, and Righton wrongly claimed that she was unable to verify the contents of the original. Righton ignored the clamour on twitter asking her to apologise, or explain her actions. 

I think this is actually more worthy of WikiNews, but felt it worth bringing here for debate. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 20:18, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I vote for inclusion in the article Rankersbo (talk) 16:34, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


 * There should be something on this included in the article - it is now a party of her notability. Khcf6971 (talk) 13:35, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Are there any main media references? A newspaper or similar publication? The only stuff I can find is still in the blogosphere, and could (would?) seem to the neutral like a spat between political bloggers? Remember, we are heading into a UK election, so an accurate and well ref'd article is paramount. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 18:17, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The incident is well referenced within the Lib Dem Voice article. It belongs in this article. Longwayround (talk) 23:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Lib Dem Voice is hardly a NPOV reference. The only thing the Lib Dem Voice article references is other Lib Dem bloggers! Can we not find one decent newspaper ref? Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 23:41, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Rewrite
There seems to be a total rewrite now, which removes credited material, and let us say looks like it is written to paint a rosey picture of Ms Righton. Nakedbatman
 * I have for now reverted the rewrite. Could you expand upon how you think the article has been given a rosy tint? Longwayround (talk) 13:18, 27 November 2009 (UTC)


 * A number of sections which may not be too appealing to a Cornish reader seemed to have been eradicated. These were researched items from original printed material researched by the TV-am museum plus other soucres.
 * For example As a teenager, Righton worked in several restaurants and hotels, however, she had always intended to become a journalist was removed, even tough it was sourced.


 * She and her husband Mark and six year old son Ben moved to Windsor, Berkshire was removed (even though there is a contemparaneous photo spread story available from the TV Times of the time (4–10 April 1987) when she moved. Again later on Windsor is oddly changed to London.
 * Credits list Channel Four News and body says Channel Four's Daily business news. In fact she was a presenter on the Channel Four Daily, which is neither, and a reference link to her presenting the last episode has been removed.


 * I should point out that in several of the areas referenced and sanatised I actually worked with Ms Righton, though I prefer not to discuss my identity.
 * Nakedbatman —Preceding undated comment added 12:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC).


 * I have again reverted WenSpa's edits and have posted to the user's Talk page with an invitation to enter this discussion. Longwayround (talk) 22:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks guys - gosh, this is a "fun" article! Seems it is going to be a fun election in this new constituency: and there is still 7months to go. No need to ID yourself Nakedbatman (only required if we get into a dispute procedure - hope there is no need for that, talkpages can and do work), but thanks for IDing yourself as someone who knows Ms Righton. If its well and neutrally referenced, then no problem on inserting it/reverting as Longwayround has done. I conclude from their edits that WenSpa has some form of similar interest, so good to get them involved. Let's see what happens - Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 02:55, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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