Talk:Carolyn C. Perrucci

Notability
I'm not entirely sure this biography meets notability guidelines. Dr. Perrucci appears quite accomplished in her field, but nothing in the article seems to suggest her career is any more or less noteworthy than a typical university professor in a related field. I am not proposing the article for deletion yet, but I think it's worth a deeper discussion. nf utvol (talk) 01:06, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I just took a second look and only just now realized that all references are primary sources, should have picked that up during my review and noted it there, whoops. Further evidence that this article should be considered for deletion. If no further comments are made or sources supplied by the end of the week, I'm going to PROD this article.nf utvol (talk) 13:23, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe she meets WP:SIGCOV based on the sources: . Plus, co-editing the notable book, Women in Scientific and Engineering Professions doesn't hurt. TJMSmith (talk) 13:34, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The sources provided are all primary sources for grants, conference attendance, fellowships, etc., from local-interest sections of newspapers in the towns where she has done work. In other words, all pretty run-of-the-mill activities by academic staff at a university. I'm not saying Dr. Perucci *isn't* notable - she may very well be - but nothing presented yet would really separate her from any other professor at a major research university. I think we can agree that every university professor is not necessarily considered noteworthy simply because they are a university professor. Do you have any information on unique achievements by Dr. Perucci, such as any major firsts, groundbreaking research that had a noteworthy and lasting impact on a field of study, or secondary sources referencing her or her work? nf utvol (talk) 16:34, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Most academics are not as well covered in reliable news sources. This is why I think the meets WP:GNG. TJMSmith (talk) 17:29, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Understood that most academics are not well covered in news. But, usually, academics that are noteworthy will have news reports other than articles about receiving grants, attending conferences, career milestones, and obituaries. All of the sources provided are either professional biographies at the subject's institution, or local/regional newspaper articles discussing the above. These are, by definition, primary sources and, from No Original Research: "Do not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them."
 * The fact that Dr. Perucci is not covered in anything beyond newspaper snippets outlining run-of-the-mill academic activity does not really add to the argument for notability. Even most of these articles are "Person X attended event Y," or "person X received grant." There's never any discussion in the articles about what the outcomes or impacts were. Any sources that talk about what she has accomplished that is out of the ordinary for any other academic at a research university would go a long way towards establishing notability. If we go by the guidelines established in Notability (academics) then it is fairly clear, based on the citations listed in the article, that Dr. Perucci does not meet the criteria for notability.nf utvol (talk) 13:28, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

RfC on Notability and Sourcing
Please provide comments on whether or not the subject of this article fits the guidelines laid out in Notability (academics). Additionally, comments on the sourcing and whether or not it is appropriately sourced for an BLP would be appreciated. nf utvol (talk) 13:02, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * No - I may have missed something, but I am not seeing the WP:NACADEMIC criteria nor a general fame in major newspapers. Seems like a long standing and reputable academic with good numbers of publications, and local papers coverage - but nothing major.  Cheers Markbassett (talk) 21:43, 19 August 2022 (UTC)