Talk:Cars 2/Archive 1

Merge
From looking at the deletion discussion, it is obvious that there is a lot of people who want this article to be kept. However, as an alternative to deletion, I propose merging the film into the Cars article, until more information is released. A film which will be released 4 years into the future simply does not deserve it's own article, as per WP:FILM and WP:CRYSTAL. When more information is released, and the film enters production the article may then be recreated.--EclipseSSD (talk) 18:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I disagree! It should stay with it's own page! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.14.29 (talk) 07:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that Cars 2 should redirect to Cars (film) with the information merged there. The film doesn't come out for 4 more years, and there isn't a whole lot of information yet. As more information becomes available, the section should eventually be made into its own article. Useight (talk) 22:24, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose merge: Toy Story 3 has had its own page forever, and contains little information. This should be kept separately because it is going to be a film in its own right.. and the consensus for deletion was to keep.. -  ǀ Mikay ǀ   22:33, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: You're making that claim on the basis of one article? And we all know it is going to be a film in it's own right. All I'm saying is until more information is available on the film and plot, this film article really does not need to be a stub, and therefore it should be merged to Cars (film) until the required information is gathered. The article can then be recreated when there's a lot more information about the film.--EclipseSSD (talk) 14:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Support: Although I agree it seems reasonably likely that this film is in development (it now has a page on IMDB's Professional section), there is no concrete details. Until it is fully confirmed, it is merely rumour and conjecture, and that doesn't seem like a good basis for an article. It would probably be better that it directs towards the speculative Cars (film) on the original film's page until it is actually confirmed. It doesn't actually exist until it is confirmed, and so I agree it doesn't warrent it's own article yet. DomUK (talk) 00:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Video Games
Can you tell me when they confirm Cars 2 going to come out as a games ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.49.90.18 (talk) 16:27, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Redirect created
As this film has now been officially announced, an article has been created at Cars 2 (film), which is a more appropriate namespace for the topic (at the time of this writing it has again been nominated for AFD but appears likely to be snowball kept. I have changed this deleted article to a redirect but have kept the protection on so that a duplicate article isn't created. 23skidoo (talk) 13:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

History information

 * These 6 deleted edits belong to an originally separate talk page which was text-merged with this talk page:
 * (diff) 19:09, 16 April 2008 . . Cool Hand Luke (Talk | contribs | block) (32 bytes) (moved Talk:Cars 2 to Talk:Cars 2 (film): merge talk page)
 * (diff) 04:08, 2 January 2008 . . Ceyockey (Talk | contribs | block) (420 bytes) (removed unnecessary duplicate note)
 * (diff) 04:08, 2 January 2008 . . Ceyockey (Talk | contribs | block) (504 bytes) (revising oldafdmulti to include PROD (hmm, not tried before))
 * (diff) 04:04, 2 January 2008 . . Ceyockey (Talk | contribs | block) (337 bytes) (prodded note; oldafdmulti addition)
 * (diff) 20:51, 1 January 2008 . . Girolamo Savonarola (Talk | contribs | block) (21 bytes)
 * (diff) 01:39, 1 January 2008 . . Ceyockey (Talk | contribs | block) (21 bytes)
 * Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:16, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

History information

 * These 6 deleted edits belong to an originally separate talk page which was text-merged with this talk page:
 * (diff) 19:09, 16 April 2008 . . Cool Hand Luke (Talk | contribs | block) (32 bytes) (moved Talk:Cars 2 to Talk:Cars 2 (film): merge talk page)
 * (diff) 04:08, 2 January 2008 . . Ceyockey (Talk | contribs | block) (420 bytes) (removed unnecessary duplicate note)
 * (diff) 04:08, 2 January 2008 . . Ceyockey (Talk | contribs | block) (504 bytes) (revising oldafdmulti to include PROD (hmm, not tried before))
 * (diff) 04:04, 2 January 2008 . . Ceyockey (Talk | contribs | block) (337 bytes) (prodded note; oldafdmulti addition)
 * (diff) 20:51, 1 January 2008 . . Girolamo Savonarola (Talk | contribs | block) (21 bytes)
 * (diff) 01:39, 1 January 2008 . . Ceyockey (Talk | contribs | block) (21 bytes)
 * Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:17, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

 * Support. No dis-ambiguation is necessary. Georgia guy (talk) 00:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Carlin and Newman
Now that they've passed away (or as Carlin would have liked me to have said, died), is there any information out there on what's going on with the movie's production? -- Frightwolf (talk) 00:22, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, only one on Newman. Nothing I can find on George Carlin. But remember, the sequel is in pre-production so they is no offical story yet. We can assume that most of the original actors are set to return to reprise their characters. So to sum it all up, very little because PIXAR is working on other projects: Up, Toy Story 3, and so on. -- talk 20:27, 22 Novemeber 2008 (UTC)

Joe Ranft won't return because of his death in 2005. -User:Thebigfan —Preceding undated comment was added at 23:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC).

It says Owen Wilson is playing Lightning McQueen. is this true? Did they replace Luke Wilson with his brother? or is this an error??
 * Owen Wilson was the first and original voice actor for Lightning McQueen, and his brother never did the job. For the second and third video games, and for the Cars Toons, Keith Ferguson did his voice. Now, Owen Wilson returns for the second feature film. dogman15 (talk) 09:30, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Other film
You mentioned it is the first of two films to be released in 2011. You should say what the other one is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hashbron (talk • contribs) 22:12, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The Bear and the Bow. Please note, however, that the actual release date is unknown. If you had asked Disney in 1998 what their upcoming animated films were going to be, they would have said Kingdom of the Sun was going to be released in June 2000. The truth?? The Emperor's New Groove was released in December 2000. Georgia guy (talk) 22:33, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Teaser poster
The teaster image at the top of this page doesn't seem legit to me. It just looks like a generic Cars image with some logos and reused text slapped on the top and bottom. 76.175.116.65 (talk) 02:35, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that exact same background image was used as a background image for a foreign-lanugage poster for the first film. German or something. Now that same image is being used in a poster for the 2nd film? Someone could have Photoshopped-in the "Cars 2" logo (which is official) and the Disney stuff at the bottom. I want some confirmation on this. The Cinematical article likely made their own mock-up poster. dogman15 (talk) 18:59, 16 October 2009 (UTC)


 * UPDATE: I did some Internet searching, and I found out that it was originally the French version poster: http://www.impawards.com/2006/cars_ver4.html While we're on that, why did the poster mix Tailfin Pass with Radiator Springs and make them at about the same elevation above sea level? dogman15 (talk) 19:35, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Here is where the teaser poster is.  Rowdy the Ant  talk to Rowdy  01:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

New actors
It states here that Fillmore and Doc Hudson had new voice actors in Cars-Race-O-Rama but yet it does not even say what the new voice actors were so I think we should mention what the new voice actors were since that way it may give a better idea at the future of them. trainfan01 trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 02:24, 6 May 2010 (UTC).

More than a week has passed now and I still have seen no change to this at all. Come on. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 01:28, 15 May 2010 (UTC).

I have added a citation needed to this statement. Hope this will improve anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainfan01 (talk • contribs) 14:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Now it is sorted out. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 15:11, 16 June 2010 (UTC).

Is the voice actor for the character "Finn McMissile" really called "Auston Martin"? It seems like a Pixar-style pun on the classic car Astin Martin. There is no record of an actor by that name in IMDb. Can anyone find this? Let's give it some time then delete it.--Mordicus Egg (talk) 18:22, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing that like the character I deleted that is mentioned below, the actor is obviously a WP:HOAX as there is no article on it at all as well as your said reason. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 03:34, 25 June 2010 (UTC).

Doc isn't in Cars 2
Doc Hudson isn't in Cars 2, they've decided to retire the character due to the death of his voice actor Paul Newman. Here's the article as proof: http://pixarplanet.com/blog/larry-the-cable-guy-on-doc-hudsons-future EpiSonic (talk) 20:55, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

We have that source on the page and it says that it may happen not actually will happen at all. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 02:03, 7 June 2010 (UTC).

Edit wars
I have noticed different voice actors for Doc Hudson and Fillmore and Red(such as Christopher Plummer, Robin Williams, Craig Ferguson etc.) keep getting inserted without any source. Thus, I have removed them again and again. I think unregistered users should be blocked from editing this article. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 15:08, 16 June 2010 (UTC).

Diesel The Tank
Someone inserted this character into the Voice actors section (as David cross), yet there is no source for it at all and | an exact Google search reveals nothing on this character (most results are relating to Thomas The Tank Engine). As the case of this, it is likely made up. If anyone can prove anything about it discuss here. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 01:18, 18 June 2010 (UTC).

Figuring that this character is probably a hoax, I have deleted it. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 02:28, 21 June 2010 (UTC).

Someone re-inserted this character back in with still no source. Thus, I have deleted it again. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 02:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC).

And now I have had to delete this character twice again because of the same reason. This character is to stay OUT of the article until a reliable source is given. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 02:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC).

I watched the movie and there is no Diesel the Tank. He is a fake character and must not be included again. --64.231.206.143 (talk) 19:31, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Source problem
The source that has been uploaded on the Toy Story short film is getting a "Server not found" message when it is clicked on. Can someone try uploading a different one? trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 23:25, 27 June 2010 (UTC).

I have had to remove the citation because of this error. Make sure it is an appropriate site that is official on this before uploading it. trainfan01


 * The syntax of the URL was wrong, that's all. I've replaced the citation with the original source. (Alternative source) - Kollision (talk) 04:02, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Corey Burton as Doc Hudson and Fillmore??
In the article, someone posted that Corey Burton will be providing the voices for these two characters replacing Paul Newman and George Carlin respectively. However, there is not any verifiable source about this so maybe is just a rumor. Can anyone provide further information about this?Disneyfolly2 (talk) 20:22, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Corey Burton was the voice for Doc Hudson in Cars Mater National and Cars Race O Rama (both are video games as we have articles on). But Brian George voiced Fillmore in Cars Mater National and Mark Silverman voiced him in Cars Race O Rama. As for whether or not Burton would voice both of them in this film it seems extremely unlikely. These are probably the same vandals that have been messing with the cast section in the past (as the above comments have these mentioned). This is likely also a WP:CRYSTAL as well. There has been no cast and crew list posted on IMDB yet and the first | Google hit for it is from Pixar Wikia on the voice actors page and all it says is "He was also rumored to voice Doc in Cars 2" and it doesn't have a source either. Since there is no official source findable for this I have deleted it from this page (both from the intro paragraph and the cast section). trainfan01

I deleted it again and the part about the actors' deaths. It didn't seem to me like that fit there. Feel free to work it into the article in some other fashion. The part about Cory Burton and the video games made absolutely no sense in the context it was given. It had no source about the possible use of his voice as the voice of Doc; it simply stated that he has been used before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrettxPW (talk • contribs) 15:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I've added a paragraph on the actor's deaths and replacements in the development section. Hope this will fit in easier. trainfan01 6:54, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Disney 3D
I excised the following line from the "Development" section:
 * The film is specially designed for a good performance in Disney Digital 3-D.

This statement is unsourced and also seems like opinion, not fact. Manning (talk) 06:15, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Major fixups
I have just fixed up a few parts of the article to keep it cleaner (such as correcting The Movie Insider Link, etc.). trainfan01 talk 7:49, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Teaser trailer is out.
hey, the 1st teaser trailer is out now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho1iVxuNOOM i think it might be a good idea to mention a trailer has been released on the page —Preceding unsigned comment added by EpiSonic (talk • contribs) 08:37, 9 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I added the teaser trailer in the "External Links" section and mentioned it in the "Marketing" section. Thank you EpiSonic. Halemane (talk) 10:12, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Plot to Premise
I changed the title of the "Plot" section and made it as "Premise". A Plot cannot be truly written until you watch the film. I wrote the Synopsis, with a reference. Halemane (talk) 00:10, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

New Teaser Poster and Picture
Here's a link to the new teaser poster and picture from the film: http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/3007/cars-2-stills/photo/0. Since I am relatively new to Wikipedia, I have no idea about the copyrights and how it's used. And, I don't want to put up the picture and poster by going against the rules of Wikipedia.

Will someone please put up this teaser poster and the picture to the article with a proper copyright? It would be much appreciated. Thank you. Halemane (talk) 09:49, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Toy Story 3 VHS
Why does this article claim Toy Story 3 is on VHS? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.92.59.198 (talk) 16:47, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done. -- McDoob  AU  93  17:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

It is pretty obvious, especially since they do not release films on VHS anymore (they now only do it on DVD and Blu-ray).trainfan01 talk 19:19, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Delfino319, 16 November 2010
edit semi-protected

Finn McMissle is played by Micheal Caine

Delfino319 (talk) 19:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done I think. If not, please be more specific. Thanks. -Atmoz (talk) 22:41, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Early Review
Someone got to see the movie early (well, in storyboard form, anyway) and have posted any early review. Shouldn't this be mentioned somewhere? Prehaps a "Reception" or "Release" section? I know it's early, but, should it be mentioned? http://www.cc2k.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2258 Effluvium (talk) 23:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

I would think not, because if that was used as a reference it would be removed quickly as blog posts (like that) are not reliable sources. Plus, this storyboard thing was not shown anywhere else (the post refers to it being only in Sweden). For example, on the Toy Story 3 page there is no info about the College Cliffhanger screenings bevause it was only shown to College students and not anyone else, but the sneek peaks of that film on The Disney Channel and Cartoon Network are mentioned because they were fully shown everywhere (e.g. Public Domain) and not in a specific place.trainfan01 talk 9:59, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Dominojr, 3 January 2011
edit semi-protected

cars 2 will be released on 22/7/11

Dominojr (talk) 09:27, 3 January 2011 (UTC)


 * ❌ Do you have a source? BOVINEBOY 2008 09:29, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Should we add Fillmore to the cast?
Fillmore's been seen in the marketing campaign recently for the film, and is supposed to be joining the adventure around the world - confirming he's in the film. Maybe we should make a note in the "Replacements" section that Fillmore's returning, since we don't know who will voice him and taking over for George Carlin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chopperface116 (talk • contribs) 02:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Appearing in the film and having spoken lines are two different things. The Simpsons routinely has old characters in the background who have no dialogue. While I'm not immediately doubting that Fillmore is in the trailer, I don't believe, without a reliable source saying so, we can speculate as to exactly what's going on. -- McDoob  AU  93  02:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I think we should add Fillmore's name to the voice cast after it is confirmed as to who is voicing him. After all it is 'voice CAST', is it not? And, I agree with the previous comment. Halemane (talk) 04:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Red the Firetruck
Why is he even mentioned because of his voice actor? God bless Joe Ranft but Red was a mute in the first movie so it dosen't matter if he dosen't have a voice actor? 68.1.168.27 (talk) 03:51, 3 February 2011 (UTC)Onepiece226

Disney Digital 3D
The line: "It will be presented in Disney Digital 3-D, IMAX 3D, RealD 3D and 2-D."

Does not make sense according to what is specified in Disney Digital 3-D: "Disney Digital 3-D is not a presentation nor a production format or technology. Films advertised as Disney Digital 3-D come from a number of sources, film, digital camera as well as animation software, and can be presented using any digital 3D technology, including RealD, Dolby 3D, XpanD 3D and MasterImage 3D. There is no specific handling involved."

SoundTrack
New Soundtrack for "Cars 2"


 * "Kids in America" by Kim-Lian
 * Others More —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.13.162 (talk) 08:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Could you provide the source? The first title sounds made-up. trainfan01 talk 21:02, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Doc Hudson's fate
At last, the ref I just added (from the LA Times) mentions Doc Hudson is not returning in this film. Still haven't found any source for the Fillmore replacement (I just undid another edit about Lloyd Sherr voicing him, which has constantly been added and deleted both from the characters artcile and the actor's article). trainfan01 talk 21:01, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Some joker was able to get the IMDb to credit Mr. Sherr with Fillmore's voice in the Race-O-Rama video game. I've asked that the credit be removed. --Skywatcher68 (talk) 19:39, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protect the page
If you are an administrator and you are reading this, please semi-protect this article. There has been much vandalism since semi-protection was removed. Vinayaka Halemane (talk) 11:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I've made a request at Requests for page protection. --Skywatcher68 (talk) 19:30, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks a ton man. Much appreciated. Vinayaka Halemane (talk) 03:35, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

New voice
Somebody should really add: Michel Michelis as the voice of Tomber.

Source: http://www.takefiveaday.com/2011/03/07/disney-pixar-cars-2-new-trailer-debuts-on-entertainment-tonight-new-characters/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pdas1996 (talk • contribs) 01:19, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. But I used another source which did not concentrate on Entertainment Tonight. Thanks for the heads-up :) Vinayaka Halemane (talk) 20:48, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Should we add Joe Ranft to the Replacements section or not?
Joe Ranft has been added to the Replacements section yet again. I want to get to the bottom of this. Should his name be included or not?

I think that the section should be removed once the film is released because it will then be clear that Doc Hudson isn't in the film. And, Fillmore's voice actor will obviously be known and a note about the replacement of Fillmore's voice actor can be given in the Voice Cast Section. And, I don't think Red will appear in this film. Even if he does so, a note can be added à la Fillmore.

But, until then, should Joe Ranft's name be included? Vinayaka Halemane (talk) 20:20, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Red appears in Cars 2
Can someone correct the Replacements Section, and mention that Red is confirmed to reappear in Cars 2 ? Indeed, in the Second International Trailer, Sheriff, Flo, Ramone, Sally and Red can be seen. See this screenshot http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110309192720/pixar/images/0/09/Rest_of_radiator_springs_folks_cars_2.png --209.197.163.131 (talk) 19:48, 27 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up! I changed the info.. But, it would be good if there was a reference to accompany the change. If you get any reference, please do give a heads up here. Even if I don't see it, somebody else will surely do so and add it. Thanks again! Vinayaka Halemane (talk) 20:28, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Fillmore and Lizzie
Hey, I noticed that Fillmore and Lizzie were not listed in the voice cast, so I added them. They were in the original Cars movie, and they are returning for Cars 2. The Lloyd Sherr casting announcement is also listed on the Cars 2 IMDb page. --TravisBernard (talk) 14:54, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, these two characters currently sit at the bottom of the list. Should they be moved up the list?  I'm not sure how big of a role these characters play in the sequel. --TravisBernard (talk) 14:57, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Production info
Here is an interview conducted with Lasseter from Ain't It Cool News. Some production information involving Cars and the conception of characters (notably Finn) are included. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 00:51, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Collider interview: WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 23:24, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Frosty
I'm questioning the pertinence to have Frosty listed in the voice cast. It's likely to be the name and voice of either Lewis Hamilton or Jeff Gorvette in the Australian version, according to this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuwnUDBCQHw. So if he must be listed, then he should be listed in a paragraph with the Australian voice cast.--69.157.246.168 (talk) 19:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Broom77, 12 May 2011
put a song "Kids in America" by Kim-Lian in Cars 2

Broom77 (talk) 08:29, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Do you have a WP:RS, you need to have one before you can add anythingHardy Heck (talk) 22:54, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Voice cast of Cars 2
There are 926 characters in Cars 2. Maybe we should create a separate page for the cast. Thoughts? --TravisBernard (talk) 19:09, 19 May 2011 (UTC)


 * You could expand List of Cars characters to cover both films. I wouldn't necessarily list all the characters, just the major ones (meaning that they do something in the film instead of being in the background). Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 19:28, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Erik. I think sticking to major characters is a good guideline.  --TravisBernard (talk) 21:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, there's effectively almost 1000 cars appearing in the film, but most of them will likely be silent unnamed background characters, because otherwise... Cars 2 sure have a big cast, a lot of small characters are named... But not all 926.--Gray Catbird (talk) 00:19, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Evil car!
The villain of the new Cars is evil. He wants to stop the Piston Cup! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.204.216 (talk) 22:45, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Series of Broad Revisions
For the past week I've been working on a series of broad revisions for this page, but I would like some feedback before implementing them. The goal of the edits is to bring the article up to the standards listed in the Film MOS, improve the organization, and offer needed citations. The film will be released in about 25 days, and I feel that these edits are urgent and necessary. A link to my draft can be found here.

Here's a summary of the edits: Any and all feedback is welcome, and it would be great to hear from the community before implementing. --TravisBernard (talk) 17:27, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Revised, expanded, and updated intro paragraph, including adding sources.
 * Switched Plot to Premise to meet Film MOS guidelines. Rewrote plot.
 * Left cast section untouched.
 * Completely overhauled the Development section. Added a casting section instead of a replacements section.
 * Expanded marketing section and provided multiple reliable sources for information. Removed video game and short film section and added information to marketing section
 * Altered intro sentence for the soundtrack section.
 * I also added a few proposed images. Maybe we can select 2 of the 3. --TravisBernard (talk) 17:32, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I just implemented several of these edits including:
 * Updating the introduction paragraph and adding sources.
 * Switched premise to plot and reworked.
 * Changed a few items in the Production section, namely switching "replacements" to "casting."
 * Added a minor note in the soundtrack section.
 * Added sources to the "Short Film" section.
 * I didn't edit the other sections, but I'm curious if we should add any additional images to the page.


 * Let's keep the conversation going about these edits. I'm open to feedback. Thanks. --TravisBernard (talk) 14:08, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Alleged "Vitaly Petrov" Car
Petrov Vitaly's official website reports that he has a car in this film. No other sources have reported on the item. I don't think that it should be included in the article until multiple reliable sources have confirmed that he has a car in the film. Until more sources report on the item, it should be removed. According to Wikipedia's code on Verifiability "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. You may remove any material lacking a reliable source that directly supports it." I think Petrov's official site is a questionable source, so I'm removing it. --TravisBernard (talk) 18:51, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Vitaly Petrov car use the same body as confirmed Max Schnell car. Possible it will be regional generic character. --Rayden (talk) 21:11, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't realize that they did that. So for the version that will be released in, let's say Russia, Petrov Vitaly is in it, but in other areas of the world he is not in it? Regardless, I still think we need additional sources to back it up. --TravisBernard (talk) 21:09, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Max Schnell is voiced by Sebastian Vettel in the German version of Cars 2. Several German websites reported the news.--Gray Catbird (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Disney Russia posted video with Petrov car on official youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG1xR5YLbIc --Rayden (talk) 15:33, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow ! They changed the scene of the original movie ! The original is with Jeff Gorvette. See it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op2MEWNS3fQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL. Note it's Max Schnell's car with different colors.--Gray Catbird (talk) 15:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Jeff Gorvette is also regional character for US or North America. And we have Alonso in spanish version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKHJfIwFebk --Rayden (talk) 12:33, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Since this is the English version of Wikipedia, I think we should stick to the characters in the US and UK versions. --TravisBernard (talk) 14:41, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * This article looks like it explains what is happening: http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/entertainment/article/Hollywood-tailoring-movies-for-overseas-audiences-1384626.php --Gray Catbird (talk) 16:35, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Is it possible to protect a Discussion page?
Looks like we have at least one IP who insists on disrupting this page. --Skywatcher68 (talk) 23:47, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Red in Cars 2 - Citation
Hello, I saw you are demanding a citation for Red appearing in Cars 2. I can confirm you he indeed appears. Although no official written confirmation has been made, it is confirmed by the trailers, in which red appears several times. If you still doubt, I can give you links to the concerned trailers or to screenshots.--Gray Catbird (talk) 18:32, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Running Time
As confirmed by Movietickets.com, the running time of Cars 2 is approx. 113 minutes (or 1 hr, 53 min.) Just want to FYI editors, as this could be added to the info blotter. --CODBlackOps798 (talk) 23:42, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 98.218.145.239, 16 June 2011
One of the songs in Cars 2 is listed, twice, as "Mon Caeur Fait Vroum (My Heart Goes Vroom)." The correct spelling of the French word for heart is coeur, not caeur (source: , or any French-English dictionary). Please change both instances of caeur to coeur. (Actually, it's written cœur, with a digraph œ for the "oe," and I think that may have confused the original transcriber of the song title). Thanks! lengoldstein

98.218.145.239 (talk) 08:13, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done GaneshBhakt (talk) 09:49, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Gambleputti, 20 June 2011
Can somone add:

Janne "Flash" Nilsson as Flash (Swedish release)

In the section about Jeff Gorvette is replaced with race car drivers better known in the specific countries.

Source: http://www.flashengineering.se/en/2011/06/09/jan-flash-nilsson-gets-a-role-in-cars-2/

Gambleputti (talk) 20:30, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I have added this information, complete with correct citations. I'm not sure if it's appropriate for the English-language Wikipedia to even mention something like this, though, so don't be surprised if someone else removes it. dogman15 (talk) 23:21, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from daylenyang, 24 June 2011
Unfortunately I do not have enough edits to make the change myself...I spotted a very small typo in the Plot:

"...Mater gets angry when F1 car Francesco Bernoulli starts boating about how he is far faster than McQueen..."

I do not think Bernoulli is "boating", he must be "boasting".

Daylenyang (talk) 04:27, 25 June 2011 (UTC)daylenyang
 * Yes check.svg Done Jnorton7558 (talk) 05:46, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Tbiggs91, 26 June 2011
I don't know why it was done, but someone just changed the critical review of this film to be incorrect. Should be "Mixed to negative reviews" (instead of positive) And 5.5/10 average on Rotten Tomatoes (Instead of 7.7). I understand you may like the film, but that doesn't mean you should be able to change the page to have others go waste money on it.

Tbiggs91 (talk) 02:57, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: by someone else. The 5.5 is now in the article and is showing that they are mixed reviews. Jnorton7558 (talk) 07:36, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Merging?
Now that we have another movie, should we consider creating a "Cars (franchise)" article and making the "Cars (film)" only for the first movie. That includes merging all of the Pixar shorts and toons into their seperate articles or merging them into the new "Cars" article. The point is, now that the second film has now made Cars into a franchise, should we consider rearranging all of the Cars content into like how the Toy Story content is arranged? Giggett (talk) 23:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Cars (franschise) exsists
There is a page called Cars (franchise) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TAR2C (talk • contribs) 16:24, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

bad reviews
stop with the bad reviews everyone i think the movie is awesome i mean its a good movie really — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justin567 (talk • contribs) 01:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I think this comment is an opinion.trainfan01talk 18:59, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Cast Problem
Does anyone else think that, due to his overall prominence in the film that in the cast list, Larry the Cable Guy should be ahead of Owen Wilson. He certainly has much more screen time and is the focus of the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.236.15 (talk) 12:24, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

POV pushing?
One thing that really concerns me is the last line of the introduction section which reads "This is Pixar's lowest reveiwed movie to date" While this is technically true, there is no reason for it to be in the introduction section of the article. Most other movies do not have this in there opening section and it seems like a thinly veiled way of saying "Cars 2 sucks". Deathawk (talk) 23:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Usually, items of notability go into the lead paragraph. Up until Cars, Pixar films have always been able to count on very positive reviews. But apparently the critics, who already didn't really like Cars that much (but enough liked it somewhat and kept things generally positive), hated more of the same, so they drubbed Cars 2. Since it's the first "critical failure" for the studio, it does have some notability. -- McDoob  AU  93  03:11, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


 * To add onto McDoob, there have been many articles and editorials noting that very fact and reviews take note of it as well. BOVINEBOY 2008 03:45, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Release section
Hey everyone, I noticed the release section is a little light. In an effort to bring the article up to Film MOS standards, I drafted a new version of the release section which can be found here. Much of the focus is on the home media release, but I also added in information about the El Capitan world premiere. Any feedback is welcome. Thanks. --TravisBernard (talk) 13:15, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Honestly, it seems to me like there's a bit too much detail. I get lost in the long lists of "2-disc Blu-ray", "1-disc Digital Copy", etc. Maybe it could be written in such a way that the flow isn't broken up by all those long parentheticals. I would also just link "digital copy" instead of explaining it there. Actually, maybe it would be as simple as just not listing how many of each disc there are. For example:
 * a 5-disc combo pack (Blu-ray, Blu-ray 3D, DVD, and Digital Copy);
 * reads much easier to me than:
 * a 5-disc combo pack (2-disc Blu-ray, 1-disc Blu-ray 3D, 1-disc DVD, and 1-disc Digital Copy);
 * I would also probably reword some of the bonus features a bit, rather than just name how they appear on the box (which is marketing-ese, not necessary appropriate for an encyclopedia). For example: The Toy Story short is usually referred to as just "Hawaiian Vacation" (and it should be italicized), so I would probably write "the short Hawaiian Vacation" or "the Toy Story short Hawaiian Vacation".
 * That's my $0.02 for now, anyway. --Fru1tbat (talk) 16:43, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. I updated some parts of the draft, so if you have a chance, could you give it another look?  I removed some of the excessive information from the intro home media paragraph.  I decided to leave the long lists, because I think it's more clear.  I worked heavily on the Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides article, and most editors agreed that this format was better.  With regards to the bonus features, I think I might need to remove some of the bonus features so that only the most important features are included.  The tricky part is deciding which ones are the most significant.  Maybe I'll take your suggestion here and shorten the bonus features to, let's say "the Toy Story short Hawaiian Vacation" and a few others.  I'm still trying to make a decision on this part, so any input would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks again for the help. --TravisBernard (talk) 16:10, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I did some additional rewording to the draft, and i think it's good to go now. I'll implement the update within the next hour. Thanks. --TravisBernard (talk) 15:58, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think we could maybe trim down some of the release section, but I still think most of the information is important to include. What parts specifically do users think we should cut? --TravisBernard (talk) 20:43, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I re-read the section and I think it can do without the disc numbers in parenthesis. I think it greatly enhances the flow, so I made the edit. --TravisBernard (talk) 20:47, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I think almost everything should go :) Listing all disc combinations reads as a shopping guide. There are too many of them, and more will still come, with new film packs, anniversaries.. And having so detailed disc information is not common on films' pages. Beside that it is really hard to read, and only one reference with the press release would suffice. I would just write that the film was released on this and that media, and with what shorts it was accompanied. --Carniolus (talk) 08:46, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * What if we left the first paragraph in the home media section, and shortened the second paragraph to include just a list of the extras, but not which extras are included with each individual package? --TravisBernard (talk) 12:53, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that would be a progress :) And only one ref at the end of the paragraph would be more than enough. The best would be the one which cites the original press release in its entirety. Like this one: http://www.toonzone.net/news/articles/38561/pr-cars-2-to-blu-ray-combo-pack-blu-ray-3d-dvd-amp-download-on-november-1-2011 --Carniolus (talk) 14:00, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I shortened the reference list. I kept the Cinema Blend reference because it includes the press release. I think it looks much better now. Thanks. --TravisBernard (talk) 20:21, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Should we include this?
Just recently, John Lasseter made a response to the negative reviews of the films. Not sure if it would be worth mentioning in the article, but...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/movies/john-lasseter-of-pixar-defends-cars-2.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

He also made this response shortly after the initial release while he was at the film's premiere in Paris: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl7Y9bC4rnY

--I&#39;m a Graduate! (talk) 22:14, 17 November 2011 (UTC)Chris


 * I believe specific quotes from Mr. Lasseter would be usable in the article, in the "Reception" section. There are some good ones, including one where he denies that Disney forced Pixar into doing Cars 2 in order to sell more toys. -- McDoob  AU  93  22:52, 17 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I also support the use of Lasseter's quotes throughout the article, especially with regards to the "Reception" section. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

I've added this information to the Reception section. Cutecutecuteface2000 (talk) 23:01, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Good article
Does anyone have suggestions for how to get this page up to good article status. I think it's in pretty good shape right now, but I'm looking for ideas to improve it. Any suggestions would be helpful. --TravisBernard (talk) 22:29, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It might be an idea to review the use of prepositions. At present the article reads as if written by somebody barely literate. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 20:39, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Responding to a four year old post placed by an editor who hasn't edited since 2013 is like a broken pencil - pointless. Also you are certainly free to edit and improve this barely literate article. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:12, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

John Lassetire is not in the movie.
I watched the movie and he's not in the movie. Can you please tell me where he is in the movie? 66.82.9.74 (talk) 06:54, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * He is the director. All the characters in the film are animated cars, so of course he doesn't appear directly in the film. Where did you get that idea? ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 07:58, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Lasseter got its own character: http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/john-lasseter-gets-his-own-character-in-cars-2-john-lassetire/. He was in this scene: http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens16744201module150556068photo_1306939663Jeff_Gorvette.JPG --Carniolus (talk) 08:45, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Aha. That's kinda cool. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 21:21, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Ships at the beginning
Is it just me, or do the ships at the beginning of the movie look really similar to the United States Navy's littoral combat ships? One of them is even numbered "02", similar to USS Independence (LCS-2). What do you think? Allen (talk) 01:43, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Negative vs. Mixed
I'm taking this to the talk page because there is no discussion whether we should use "negative" or "mixed" reviews. In an orderly fashion, could each of the editors involved simply vote once as to whether the lead and reception sections of the article should reflect "Mostly Negative", "Negative to Mixed" or "Mostly Mixed"? Include your reasoning if you wish to do so, but please try to keep it to one post per without this turning into an argument. Once a concensus is reached, perhaps we can all simply leave it that way regardless of who 'wins'. I will go first. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 13:59, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm going for "Generally Mixed". Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:00, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


 * As the section is intended for "Critical response", both postive and negative reviews are expected. Id agree that "generally mixed" is the proper way to go for balance.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:04, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Similar plot
Isn't the idea of exploding fuel similar to the Team Knight Rider episode "Oil and Water''? Are there any other movies/TV shows that dealt with the same issue? Allen (talk) 19:22, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Jacques Villeneuve
Jacques Villeneuve shouldn't be listed as a Jeff Gorvette replacing character, since he isn't. Rather, he voices David Hobbscap. Therefore I think Villenneuve's voice contribution should be mentioned on the line about David Hobbscap, in the same way it is currently for Sophia Loren--Gray Catbird (talk) 22:19, 9 April 2012 (UTC).

it is the only rotten Pixar film.
It is the only Pixar film to be rotten.

68.4.41.156 (talk) 18:15, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Your requested version is a clear attack on the subject. 2AwwsomeTell me where I screwed up.See where I screwed up. 18:20, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Defining the "death" of a car
Just saying, I think a better plot description would first make "car death" a well-defined event (this was never a problem in the first movie). But one has to be careful about inserting original research. Is there a way to clear this up?--Jasper Deng (talk) 09:48, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * To be specific on why I think it needs to be well-defined, readers would then understand the fakery of death by Finn, as well as what they can expect some other "lethal" events to do.--Jasper Deng (talk) 10:02, 3 February 2014 (UTC)