Talk:Carter G. Woodson

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ISBN
I have added the ISBN number for this article.  K ilo-Lima|(talk) 12:36, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Dispute Founders
The African American Registry has an article on Jesse E. Moorland which indicates that Moorland was a co-founder of the Association for the Study of African American Life and History with Carter G. Woodson. This article list 4 additional founders, however; Moorland is not mentioned, nor are there references which site these 4 other founders. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccson (talk • contribs) 04:39, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Nearly twelve years later, I think I finally fixed it, primarily with [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carter_G._Woodson&diff=prev&oldid=823610146 this edit]. Graham 87 09:22, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 15:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Claim that Woodson hoped week would be eliminated
This article: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10482634/site/todayshow/ns/today-entertainment/t/freeman-calls-black-history-month-ridiculous/#.T17PCmJST9R claims that Woodson, "hoped the week could one day be eliminated — when black history would become fundamental to American history." Is there any source for this claim?CrocodilesAreForWimps (talk) 04:40, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Missing text from previous edits
Under the Career section, two sentences have problem areas: "Along with Alexander L. Jackson and three aswas the year Woodson published The Education of the Negro Prior to 1861. His other books followed: A Century of Negro Migratiinues to be published by the Association for the Study of African American Life and History (ASALH).Ytiroirp (talk) 13:50, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 10:59, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Mischief editing?
This morning, following the Google banner, I found spurious editing throughout the beginning of the article, such as, "... the precursor of Black History EL Month.[3] PENNNE" I have removed them which I expect will show in the history. Jplvnv (talk) 13:16, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Upon returning to the page, I no longer find the mischief. Now I am turning my attention to my own computer. Feel free to delete this section. Jplvnv (talk) 13:21, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks; it was caused by vandalism to the page by 168.10.79.125. By the time I got there, all there was to remove was [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carter_G._Woodson&diff=823496275&oldid=823494441 some whitespace]. Graham 87 17:50, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Does this sentence make sense?
This sentence under career is weird to me. This is it:

"For instance, in 1924, he published the first survey of free black slaveowners in the United States in 1930."

I just don't get it. Did he publish it in 1924 or in 1930? And if I am understanding correctly, the survey was of free black people who owned slaves? So what is that, like 12 people? And how was it published in 1924/1930 if slavery was abolished in 1865, 10 years before he was born? Did someone else conduct the survey, and he happened to get his hands on the results? Why didn't they publish it?

It reminds me of the following poem:

One fine day in the middle of the night

Two dead boys got up to fight

Back to back they faced each other

Drew their swords and shot each other — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.210.106.66 (talk) 15:19, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Nice catch! I used WikiBlame to search for the text you quoted, and found that it was made that way by [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carter_G._Woodson&diff=prev&oldid=509877721 some vandalism in August 2012]; 1930 should have been 1830, which I've just fixed. Graham 87 17:50, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

"So what is that, like 12 people?" By the 1860 census, there were 500 free blacks who owned slaves in Louisiana alone. Just extrapolating from that, the total number nation-wide must have easily been over 1,000.Starhistory22 (talk) 03:34, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Early Life
I made some edits to the second paragraph of the Early Life section of the article. My changes to content consisted of adding in the name of Woodson's brother Robert Henry and the addition of state locations to the towns named. While reading through the original version of the paragraph, I thought that the towns' locations could definitely be specified a little more. Otherwise, I just rewrote the sentences to flow better and kept the remainder of the content in this paragraph the same as it was. Bravestofbrave (talk) 20:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Willis Johnson or Carter G. Woodson?
The picture used is also widely used for Willis Johnson, the inventor of the egg beater. Something needs to be fixed here. Either this is Woodson or Johnson, but it's not both. 2600:8803:2903:1C00:59C2:6404:BF10:869F (talk) 23:36, 7 February 2022 (UTC)


 * According to the File usage on other wikis section at commons:File:Dr. Carter G. Woodson (1875-1950), Carter G. Woodson Home National Historic Site, 1915. (18f7565bf62142c0ad7fff83701ca5f6).jpg, this image is used consistently within Wikipedia/Wikimedia to represent Dr. Woodson. Its source is https://npgallery.nps.gov/AssetDetail/18f7565bf62142c0ad7fff83701ca5f6. I suggest you contact the other websites using it for Willis Johnson to get it corrected. Peaceray (talk) 00:16, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Woodson's Parents
The article states, "Woodson remains the only person whose parents were enslaved in the United States to obtain a PhD." Unless this statement is construed in the very narrow sense of both parents, I can think of at least one exception to that statement off the top of my head. Anna Julia Cooper was born into slavery to an enslaved mother. Her paternity is uncertain. I am morally certain there must be others, but I'll have to do a bit of digging to find examples. When I do, I'll revise the article's claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by O.M. Nash (talk • contribs) 17:02, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2023
Change "His parents were both illiterate. His father, who had helped the Union soldiers during the Civil War, supported the family as a carpenter and farmer" to "Although his father was illiterate, Carter's mother, Anna, had been taught to read by his mistress. His father, James, had helped Union soldiers near Richmond, after escaping from his owner, by leading them to Confederate supply stations and warehouses to raid army supplies. Thereafter, and until the Civil War ended, James had scouted for the Union Army. In 1867, Anna and James married, and later moved to West Virginia after buying a small farm."

Change "Nonetheless, through self-instruction, he was able to master most school subjects." to "Through a mixture of self-instruction and four months of instruction from his two uncles, brothers of his mother who were also taught to read, Carter was able to master most school subjects."

Cite "Taíẃò Oluf́eṃ́i. Elite Capture: How the Powerful Took over Identity Politics (and Everything Else). Haymarket Books, 2022. 978-642-59688-5. Pg. 33-35. Occamssword (talk) 23:53, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


 * "taught to read by her mistress" Occamssword (talk) 23:53, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note; I'm working on this. Graham 87 00:38, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Done. I also changed "Carter" to "Woodson" (because we use surnames in situations like this) and wikilinked Richmond. Graham 87 00:49, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

High School
WT Woodson High School in Fairfax Virginia has been renamed Carter G. Woodson High School. 96.241.110.64 (talk) 17:02, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but the rename won't take effect until mid-2024, per this link found at the Wilbert Tucker Woodson High School page. Graham87 (talk) 03:19, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Other than indicating that info, does that matter? The link says it's been renamed (so the IP is correct) and yes it will take effect next school year, but is definite enough to be added, with the proviso. Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:59, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I guess not. I was just thinking in terms of the general admonition not to add things that date quickly, but in hindsight that's probably not a big deal in this case. I've added it. Graham87 (talk) 15:08, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2024
Reference 13 is incorrect. 2600:1004:B12A:7DD:3093:3882:60BF:1055 (talk) 15:26, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Peaceray (talk) 05:52, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Carter G Woodson Middle School in Hopewell, Virginia
Carter G Woodson MIddle School in hopewell Virginia needs added if someone can add that it would be better for information abt the schools named after Carter G Woodson Paytonisboss (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 13:05, 28 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note; I see you added it yourself. Thanks for that. Graham87 (talk) 14:47, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * no problem I used to go there myself awhile back so I thought it should be added Paytonisboss (talk) 13:42, 11 March 2024 (UTC)