Talk:Cartoon Network/Archive 1

Removal
I have removed some obscure mentions of Cartoon Orbit and Last Bell as I don't believe they qualify as historically significant events of this network. Jeff schiller 19:39, 2004 Nov 22 (UTC) WHAT ORBIT IS SIGNIFCANT!Lego3400: The Sage of Time 00:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Cartoon Cartoon Mondays
Does anybody, by any chance, remember Cartoon Cartoon Mondays? It was a block just like Cartoon Cartoon Fridays, only (duh) on Mondays. It was ditched really early after it's debut, about a couple months before. I just want to know if anyone remembers.

Only networks?
Turner Classic Movies and Boomerang are now the only networks left in the United States to showcase classic animation of the Golden Age and TV Eras.

I'm disputing this point. Cartoon Network does still air Tom and Jerry. -- Redfarmer 13:53, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Good point. Changing. I think, atthe time this was written, Tom and Jerry had been removed from the schedule--b. Touch 16:47, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Another thing: The Adult Swim block is adding an hour's worth of classic cartoon programming including The Popeye Show, The Bob Clampett Show and Toonheads.  Woohoo!  Jeff schiller 20:32, 2005 Mar 23 (UTC)

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Don't forget Krypto the Superdog, but it is a somewhat silly show, is in the style of old cartoons, did air in early April.

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This is also untrue about myself and others watching 1970's Charlie/Scooby shows on television, what is wrong with people, today?

But share these thoughts to the television networks, ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, Disney Channel and Cartoon Network by e-mailing them. But, if a show did exist, they could be surprised.

Two duplicated article: Mike, Lu & Og and Mike, Lu and Og
There are two duplicated article on Wikipedia, Named Mike, Lu & Og and Mike, Lu and Og. What should I do? 성혀니

They both seem identical, but I think someone should deleate Mike, Lu and Og because I think the one with the '&' is the correct spelling, but i'm not really positive... ^_^;;

"All-animation legacy"?
Ever seen the "Table Read" episode of Space Ghost: Coast to Coast? All live-action, no animation at all. This really isn't new for Cartoon Network.

Those of you assuming Cartoon Network "stands" for cartoons are wrong; it stands for making money for Time Warner shareholders. tregoweth 06:29, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Also, you can't dismiss other live-action programming that has aired on the network over the years, including Carrot Top's AM Mayhem (which had the prop-comedian, who was once a network presenter for several years, hosting and presenting cartoons), The Banana Splits Show (which, in its Cartoon Network version, had 2/3 live-action, including Danger Island segments), The Skatebirds (a late-70s Banana Splits-esque series about, appropriately enough, giant birds on skates), and The Completely Mental Misadventures of Ed Grimley (which had live-action segments featuring Count Floyd, another SCTV character). Nemalki


 * Good point; I had forgotten about those. tregoweth 08:12, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Disney movies
Does anyone think that Cartoon Network airing Disney movies is worth mentioning? I personally don't think it's all that relevant, and it seems to be one user who's pushing it. tregoweth 01:20, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

[list of films deleted. tregoweth]

So? tregoweth 05:06, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

CN have also aired movies from DreamWorks, Universal, Sony and other studios not owned by Time Warner. Should we list those? (trogga)
 * Exactly. CN shows stuff from a lot of studios. Unless they're showing Mickey Mouse cartoons, or something that would only air on Disney, then it's not interesting enough to note. tregoweth 05:17, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Spirited Away is premiering on Cartoon Network on February 3 as the channel's first Hayao Miyazaki film, so, uh, will Brother Bear ever be on Cartoon Network?.
 * Who cares? tregoweth 21:32, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Who care about what? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.38.31.191 (talk • contribs).
 * Who cares if movies from a particular studio are aired on Cartoon Network? Also, if you just want to sign your posts, use ~ ; when you use xx.xx.xx.xx, you've been using the wrong IP addresses. (Or sign up for an account; it's easy!) tregoweth 19:00, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Toonami creatures and robots
Can anyone find the names of the Toonami creatures and robots? I'm not just talking about TOM and Sara here! --Wack&#39;d About Wiki 13:45, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

The creatures on that alien planet are, to the best of my knowledge, aren't named. However, the robots are just the fifth generation of Clydes. The original Clyde, Clyde 49, was introduced on day one of Toonami, March 17, 1997. Serving as Moltar's eyes to the universe, Clyde 49 served as the mascot of the block until July 10, 1999 when he and Moltar were retired in favor of TOM. The second generation of Clydes, Clyde 50s, were introduced during the "Total Immersion Event" in 2000, The Intruder, as sentient droids with limited communication skills. The third generation of Clydes known as DOKs weren't official Clydes per se, but Williams Street are considering them to be Clydes. Introduced in 2001 during Lockdown, the second T.I.E., they were manually controlled by the viewing audiences. In 2003, Toonami's environment was dramatically improved, and later that summer, the fourth generation of Clydes were introduced. These were mostly floating emoticons, with visual expressions on their screens. The current generation of Clydes combines the insectlike appearance and color scheme of Clyde 49 and the usability of the second generation of Clydes to create the current robotic icons of the Toonami block, Clyde 53s.

I kind of know this because, well, I'm a Toonami historian, but that's neither here nor there. Nemalki 03:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

The Weather Channel insists they have nothing to do with the airings.
I don't remember any Charlie Dog cartoon series being run on Cartoon Network in 2002, 2004 - and on The Weather Channel in 2006, which the network even denies the claims, insisting they do not air the video, even a third meteorlogist is no longer on the air, but that two meteorologists were fired by the vice president of TWC, had nothing to do with this.

Goodbye!

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Added uk info
I haave added info on the new idents and logo/layout. But I have not included hotlinks. Someone else should add hyperlinks. I feel my job is already done.

Latvian CN
Do someone know, why in Latvia there is still the old CN logo, though in all countries there is the new logo, and Latvia doesn't have a CN homepage (for the Latvian CN)?

Controversy?
I think the controversy section is irrelevent. It sounds more like a personal fan complaint that the writer hopes someone important in the network will see, rather than an actual controversy that has a serious bearing on the network and it's history. I can recall quite a few other things that were far more "controversial" on CN

it was just someone with a beef aginst boo-boo-boo and birdman. It had no info, and had no refrences to back it up (Not that there was any info to back up). It was not in any way, shape, or form a controversy, and was defently not anything diffrent then any other network suffers. --63.235.127.2 01:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Things I contributed
I had added Last Bell, Cartoon Cartoon Fridays, Cartoon Olio, Super Chunk and also added U.S. press release becuase I feel they are important to the channel. I will also eventually add Lumpus and Slinkman's Cabin Fever and Camp Cartoon.

Toonami's Premiere Year
Just to let you know, Toonami premiered on Cartoon Network on Monday, March 17, 1997, NOT 1996. March 17, 1996 was a Sunday and the graphic they showed in 2001 saying Est'd 1996 was an error. Sean Akins told me about it on my site back when I asked him about it. Here are several articles to prove this: TOM "Chat" Transcript at America Online, The X Bridge's Watch This Space #47, which mentions the inaccurate graphic, and A timeline of the history of Toonami, chronicled by myself starting with Day One of Cartoon Network's existance and Toonami's prehistory Nemalki

Just Say No to Live-Action
Will whoever's editing out what I keep contributing please stop it?! The idea of putting live-action on this network is frowned upon by many fans of the network. The network's name is Cartoon Network; therefore, people have good reason in not wanting live-action programming on the channel. So STOP REMOVING THIS FACT FROM THE ARTICLE!! - Nintendo Maximus
 * Can you point to studies or polls saying that a sizable number of people object to live-action? If it's a "fact," then you should be able to provide some references or documentation. Otherwise, it shouldn't be in the article. tregoweth 23:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * What, like the petition isn't big enough?! It looks big enough to me! And besides, have you forgotten that Saved By the Bell isn't even an adult comedy in any way?! Can't we at least mention the reasons why it doesn't fit in Adult Swim's programming? You'd better stop removing my submissions, or I'll send you a nasty e-mail! - Nintendo Maximus
 * Please refer to WP:NLT, WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL. Morgan Wick 01:27, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for toning down your language. Morgan Wick 01:28, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * "Cartoon Network" is a name, not a guarantee. Online petitions are notoriously unreliable; a mention in FoxTrot just means that one person (Bill Amend) thought showing Saved by the Bell was odd. Can you provide something more substantial&mdash;say, a news story about CN viewers protesting Saved by the Bell, or a CN press release saying that they won't show any more live-action shows because of viewer protest? Then it might be worth adding. Otherwise, it just looks like soapboxing. tregoweth 22:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * No, the mention in FoxTrot means that Bill Amend is agreeing with all the people who are against the motion. That's enough for me. And why shouldn't a petition aiming for 1,000 signatures be considered proof that it's fact. I suppose that, since it wasn't given a news story, maybe it's also POV that Inspector Gadget ' s viewers hated Corporal Capeman! Ever think of that?! In fact, I'm beginning to think you support live-action programming on cartoon channels, Tregoweth! Why else would you consider my facts a lie?! - Nintendo Maximus
 * The mention in FoxTrot probably means that Amend himself thinks they shouldn't show cartoons; it doesn't necessarily mean that he's speaking for thousands of others. Signatures on Internet petitions are unverifiable, so that could be 1,000 signatures, or 10 people signing 100 times each. tregoweth 22:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I think he's speaking for all of us, and petitions are enough for me. And anyway, just because you approve of live-action programming on cartoon channels (which, need I remind you, is only your opinion and no one else's) doesn't mean that the article should agree with you! So get a life and stop making it look like everybody's OK with this decision! - Nintendo Maximus

Do you guys mind if I interject my opinion in this conversation?

Tregoweth, I agree that Internet petitions are unverifiable. It's a waste of bandwidth and will probably not even get a second glance. However, I will disagree that there aren't credible individuals and viewers complaining about Cartoon Network's move to air more live-action programming. Jerry Beck, one of the world's foremost animation historians who has written numerous tomes about the subject and has actually worked with (and continues to work with) Cartoon Network, is one of the more vocal critics about this new direction at the network as is his Cartoon Brew partner (and Animation Blast publisher and established animation historian in his own right) Amid Amidi. Writers at various websites and forums have also voiced their opinions (mostly negative) about live-action on Cartoon Network. Some are professionals within the network and the animation industry. Some are fans of the various forms of animation that air on Cartoon Network. In fact, for the first time in a long time, animation fans of all types are united in their disgust that live-action on Cartoon Network is a reality that will never go away. In 1992 up until at least 2004, Cartoon Network considered themselves the first place for cartoons, even running a promo stating "We run cartoons 24-hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, forever and ever and ever, until the end of time." The world didn't end on November 13, but that guarantee (yes, Cartoon Network WAS a guarantee) did expire. Nemalki 02:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I take it this has to do with the Liveaction section, I've read through it, and as of now I don't see any nutrality problems as of now, so it's likely the section has been polished. Would anyone remove it or mind if I? --ShortShadow 03:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Resizing .svg graphics
Does anyone know how to resize .svg graphics? I'm probably just mistyping something, but I can't seem to make it smaller on this page. tregoweth 23:33, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland
The feed has seen an upsurge of commercial advertising in recent years, despite being distributed only on pay-TV (at least in Finland). Okay when you first say that it it's distributed only on pay-TV and then you say at least in Finland that makes no sense.I don't know how to edit this though because I have no knowledge whether it's distributed only on pay-TV in Norway,Sweden and Denmark.

I'm living in Norway, and a majority of the population are having CN on cable (not only on pay-TV). ivers 12:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Cartoon Cartoon Network
Source? I've looked and can't seem to find any official press release or anything confirming this.

There's no truth to it. It was just more false information posted by User:MascotGuy, a well-known vandal --Kgmetal 10:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Saturday Enterntainment system
Before toonami was moved to saturday, there was a block that aired in that time slot Called "Saturday Entertainment System", the announments for returning from and going to commercials were styleized after video games and the block aired Anime shows (.Hack//Sign, and Roruni Kenishin of Note), though most of them made their way to toonami, it is strange that there is no mention of the block any place.--Lego3400: The Sage of Time 11:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

It was called Saturday Video Entertainment System. --293.xx.xxx.xx 21:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Whatever... Theres still no info!Lego3400: The Sage of Time 00:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Live Action
I'm curious as to what part of Cartoon Network worked on Spider-Man? The article claims that it was part of their "live action and animation". I know cartoon network is part of Warner Brothers, so Batman makes sense, but Spider-Man doesn't. So, what part exactly contributed to Spider-Man, if any? Bignole 19:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC) Nevermind, I reread it. It says broadcasted the films. My bad. Bignole

Advertisements about Cheese, Fred Fredburger, and Billy. And other bad mistakes.
I think there needs to be a section saying the flaws of the current advertisement campaign including the title characters, 3 advertisements per episode, and ingame advertisements about the same show you are watching and them taking up 2/5 of the screen on the best parts. In addition to that, I think that Cartoon Network has been foolish for the last 2 years or so, especially with taking toonami out of weekdays, and the shows they are currently airing. The only original good ones? Episodes of Billy and Mandy without random crap, Ed Edd and Eddy, KND, and a few other shows that are not the mainstream stuff shown on weekdays. Back when they had a mix of Johny Bravo, Dexter Laboratory, etc and the old shows like Scooby Doo, had the best scheduling I have seen, along with the best cartoon. Now what? They show new episodes at the worse time. They used to get a new season, then air it every friday, with other new seasons, and they always had them lined up so there were usually not any fridays without new episodes. Now its "Get an episode, then air it". Then show all the CRAPPY shows. -Deltasniper9 Oh, and I remember that one time when Fridays had a guest called Morning Wood on... And also they had a gangster mexican trash band.(Or whatever they are called)
 * That's a 100% subjective opinion. -- Henk65 12:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And opinions are not the thing we want here. We want facts. Not your rantings. Pacific Coast Highway {Gobble Gobble! • Happy Thanksgiving!} 20:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Grim and Evil
When it was voted in, it was not The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, it was paired up with Evil Con Carne and each had a 15 toon in a 30 minute block. They called it Grim and Evil.

Who produced 'Codename Kids Next Door', and when?
Contradictory data:

"Among the numerous shows the studio has produced are ... Codename: Kids Next Door(2003)..."

"Shows from other studios (with Cartoon Network's producing) had also shown on the channel, such as ... Codename: Kids Next Door (2002, Curious Pictures)"

Questions: Was CKND produced in 2002 or 2003? Was it by CN's in-house studio, or obtained from another studio?

Curious Pictures produces Codename: Kids Next Door. Cartoon Network Studios is the recording facility. Squirepants101 18:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

CN logo question
In what country has the CN logo that is on the top right-hand corner of the screen, and has a plus sign next to it? I am guessing the upper states and Canada. --Imax80 21:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

The US logo does not have a plus sign and Canada doesn't have Cartoon Network. I think that plus sign is for the Scandinanavian Peninsula (Norway, Sweden, Finland) or another part of Europe. Squirepants101 21:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)