Talk:Caspar Milquetoast

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For the record, anyone looking up as obscure a cultural reference as Caspar Milquetoast will definitely enjoy the Tom Waits reference. Great stuff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.68.81.248 (talk) 04:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Reorganize?
I propose that a different balance of this text ought to be found. Right now, the contents of this page mostly seem to belong at a disambiguation page for Milquetoast, and while there is something to be said for the article "Caspar Milquetoast", most of this material would belong at an article (not yet created) titled The Timid Soul. Any thoughts on the best solution? M URGH  disc.  00:57, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * In my experience, if you move the content to the dab page, it will be summarily removed as content.
 * Page names aside, I think the split should be: a character/publication page, which also notes the common usage (with a link to wiktionary); and a dab page for Milquetoast (since there's more than just those 2 usages).
 * (scratches my head) Which seems to be what we have now. So, unless I am missing something, I suppose I: Oppose split, on those grounds. (Feel free to make the dab page, though honestly, the current hatnote should be enough.)
 * Honestly, what this page needs, is expansion : ) - jc37 06:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Your post above read as if there already was a DAB in place, (scratching my head) and not the redirect it was.. Now there is a DAB and this page is exclusively for the character. And yes, mostly it needs expansion. M URGH   disc.  09:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note in the parentheses above: "Feel free to make the dab page" - I did note the dab page was a redirect : )


 * I also reverted your change. I felt it removed too much from the article. The key words "nervous stomach", in particular. (I thought about linking to Nervousness - a redirect to Anxiety; or to Nausea or Indigestion, but in the end none really explained the term well enough. I'm tempted to create the page Nervous stomach, and have it redirect here : )


 * I did, however, merge all the term usage text. While much condensed, it should still convey the intent well enough.


 * I also added a hatnote so that readers/editors could actually find the dab page : )


 * Any further thoughts are welcome. - jc37 20:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


 * A blank revert of an edit based on spot citing isn't an exercise in courtesy. Obviously I don't agree with your decision. What is relevant for this article is the history of the work and the character. Further etymology and floral definitions need to be referenced, and WP isn't a dictionary. M URGH   disc.  07:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * "Spot citing"? You gutted the article.
 * As for whether it isn't "courtesy", see WP:BRD. (I think it's fair to say that we've been discussing.)
 * But let's move on.
 * Anyway, I like your newest changes, except that I think that the paragraph should be two, since one deals with the name of the character, and the second deals with how that name has been used outside the strip.
 * Also, more info on the Timid Soul would be great if we can find any. - jc37 04:00, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Sightings
The above was just added by an IP.
 * Tom Waits refers to Milquetoast in his classic "The piano has been drinking (not me)" from the album Small Change (1971) "And the bouncer is a Sumo wrestler cream-puff casper milktoast".

Should such a section (which could be deemed WP:TRIVIA) be added? - jc37 18:39, 16 November 2010 (UTC)