Talk:Cassock

Buttons
The true Roman Catholic Cassock does not just have a bunch of buttons on the front. It has 33 buttons signifying the age of Christ at his death. The sleeves each have five buttons signifying the five wounds of Christ. The back of the cassock, just above the waist, are 3 arrows which signify the Trinity. Along with the cassock, there is often a rope or cloth tied around the waist to signify the chastity of the person wearing the cassock.

Canon and Archdeacon cassocks from the Anglican tradition also often have coloured piping, coloured buttons and coloured gross-grain ribbon along the hem with red for Canons and purple for Archdeacons.

Buddhist cassocks/NPOV/Geographic Scope
Cassocks aren't just worn by Christian clergymen...they are worn by many other religious clerics as well, such as that of Buddhist monks, yet the article says nothing about this? This would make it POV. -- Natalinasmpf 04:23, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * There are long robes that go under a number of names that are worn by any number of groups. Are the robes that you are referring to specifically called "cassocks"? -Willmcw 07:01, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)


 * per the user's comment, I changed the NPOV tag to a geog scope tag. That more accurately fits her concern. Feco 20:29, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that seems more appropriate. I'm removing the tag from this talk page, as it problably doesn't need to be duplicated. Cheers, -Willmcw 20:57, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)

Willmcw raises a good point: are we going to call every long robe (especially those worn by clergy) a cassock? I would suggest having separate articles for non-Christian garments, with links on this page. We could even have a section "Similar Garments in Other Religions" at the bottom of the page, with things like "In Hmartinmarrhigoniatism, the priest wears a cassock-like garment called a Gihrram." If we would rather keep everything on this page, perhaps Natalinasmpf could add a section for Buddhist cassocks? JHCC 13:41, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Revert 6/28/050
I took out "It cames from Polish national wearing." which seems a little vague and unsubstantiated. JHCC (talk) 28 June 2005 13:05 (UTC)

Neo's cassock
I've just removed again material about the long trenchcoat worn by the character Neo in the film The Matrix. Its relevence seems to consist of what fans of the film believe his clothing signifies. I think the significance of this item of clothing is about as significant as the sunglasses worn by the characters, and would prefer that it not be included in this article. — Gareth Hughes 16:13, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Scope
I've removed Limitedgeographicscope since no good case has been made for it to be there. A clerical cassock is a strictly Christian garment. Other, similar garments from other religions are, IMO, properly discussed under their proper names. otheruses can be added to direct the reader, in the event that other articles are actually written. There seems to have been no repsonse to the above discussion inviting such articles. TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

The thirty-niner
I was told the other day by a priest who wears one that the (Anglican) thirty-nine button cassock, with five pleats at the back, was invented by Arthur Couratin when he was Principal of St Stephen's House (aka "Staggers") at Oxford. It was meant to remind the wearer of the 39 stripes inflicted on Jesus at his scourging (no, it's not in the Gospels - it's some kind of pious tradition). The story might even be true: Couratin was a liturgist by trade. When he was Principal of Staggers he trained a group of servers from among his students to accompany the Bishop of Oxford, Kenneth Kirk, on his parish visitations, in order to show the parishes how to do liturgy "properly". They were known as "Kirk's Circus".

Anyway, the thirty-niner has nothing to do with the Thirty-nine Articles of Religion. Alas.Kranf (talk) 23:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

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