Talk:Casualties of the 2004 Madrid bombings

About the Forest of the Departed picture
As the picture of the Forest of the Departed has been taken from the El Mundo newspaper, it is not 100% free. When I will have some time, I will take a free photo for Wikipedia with my own camera. By the moment, I think this one is good. Eynar Oxartum 00:35, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I have just replaced the old photo by a new picture made by another wikipedian. Thanks to MGR! Eynar Oxartum 01:27, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

List of casualties
This article will probably survive AfD, but does anyone have any strong objection to me deleting the list of victims (specifically, the 'The names of the 190 casualties' section)? For those who do object, let me summarise my position:

1) A list of victims is a memorial and not encyclopaedic as per an explicit criterion of what this website is not. Even if you disagree with this point, consider:

2) In a disaster which kills thousands of people - e.g. 9/11 - such a list would be so long that it would clearly disrupt the article's flow, and be removed. This leaves us in the bizarre position that to have a list of dead on Wikipedia, a disaster must not have too few dead, but equally it can't have too many either. I therefore think that there's a pretty watertight case for leaving them out altogether, though an external link to somewhere that has them would certainly be appropriate. --Last Malthusian 17:49, 7 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Heh, forgot about this. I've removed the list (that should be 'Wikipedia is not a memorial in the edit summary) since it's been a month and no-one's objected. --Malthusian (talk) 18:28, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I've just realised, anyone who wants to view the list of names only has to look at the page's history here:
 * I understand the removal of the list, but I think it is important that there is a link to an external list of casualties in its place, for people who want that kind of information. Can anyone provide one?--Jackyd101 15:36, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Old version with list present

that way we have a concise article, and people can look at the list if they want to as well--Jackyd101 15:39, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Need clarification
Nicolás Jiménez Morán, a baby that was born on May 10th and died two days later of the injuries the mother sustained in the bombings.

Someone please explain this part. The baby was born the day before the bombings but then died because his mother sustained injuries? I don't get it, how is that possible? Is it supposed to say that he wasn't born yet, but died in the womb because of his mother's injuries? That would make sense.71.32.56.91 18:25, 31 December 2006 (UTC)


 * No, he was born nearly two months after the bombings. -- Arwel Parry (talk) 01:47, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Source
Hello-I'm trying to identify the source for the information on the victims nationalities. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.44.43.66 (talk) 02:14, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

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