Talk:Catalan Opening

I've removed this from the article (bold as in the original):


 * In 1008, a Catalonian nobleman, Count Ermengol of Urgell, specified in his will that his chess pieces were to be left to the Convent of St. Giles near Nîmes, present France and then in the area of influence of the Catalan Counties. This is the earliest recorded mention of chess in European history.

It has nothing to do with the subject of the article (which is a specific opening, not the relationship of chess to Catalonia generally). However, somebody may have a better place to put it, so I'll also copy it to Talk:Origins of chess (since History of chess redirects to Origins of chess). --Camembert 01:29, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

is there any one can tell me the differences between catalan and king's indian attack and which one is more solid and active.Thank you.


 * In the Catalan, White plays d4, c4 and g3. In the KIA, White plays Nf3, g3 and d3 instead of d4. 91.107.163.90 (talk) 17:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

This page is incomplete and inaccurate. One car hardly argue that "a few grandmaster are playing it regulary" when Kramnik is currently quite unbeatable with it, developpeing an unprecedented theoritical mastery... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.51.20.124 (talk) 14:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

As I understand Kramnik almost always plays the catalan with white nowadays. Perhaps the statement about strong players only dabbling in it should be modified? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.124.26.250 (talk) 11:18, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Kramnik, as any modern Grand Master, doesnt only use one opening. But he tends touse it as a strong weapon when needing to go for the win, due to his style. He is the only player to have a ELO 3000+ all time performance in a specific opening. So here is why the article seems innacurate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.51.20.123 (talk) 13:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I've always been curious why this is considered a separate opening rather than just another variation of the Queen's Gambit. Is it just for historical reasons, or is it a useful distinction? WHPratt (talk) 17:49, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Because you can’t reach the Catalan position from the Queen’s Gambit. ISaveNewspapers (talk) 04:53, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Why is 3...d5 4.Bg2 mentioned as being part of the Catalan?
As far as I can tell, the Catalan is 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3. Black has a number of moves to chose on the 3rd move - the common ones are 3...d5, 3..c5 and 3...Bb4+. So why does the article says 3...d5 must be played, when there are two perfect acceptable alternatives, both of which are the Catalan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.78.42.15 (talk) 21:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Similarly, the section on the Open Catalan has this:

The Open Catalan, Classical line begins 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 d5 4.Bg2 dxc4 5.Nf3 Be7

...but 7 ...Be7 in that position is a sideline, played relatively infrequently. 7... a6; 7... Nc6 and 7... c5 are the main lines, and even 7... Bb4+ is played far more often than 7... Be7. Xelkman (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Diagram
At present, the diagram is showing an impossible position with a pawn on h8 and other weirdness that isn't part of the Catalan. This seems to have resulted from a mistaken recent edit, but there are intermediate edits so it can't be automatically reverted. Can someone fix this? Neiladri (talk) 08:30, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

hans niemann magnus carlsen catalan? XD
myb could be mentioned. or not. idk. Thewriter006 (talk) 13:14, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Open Catalan needs expansion/updating
After 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.g3 dxc4 5.Bg2, there are many alternatives to 5...Be7, some of which are quite sharp and tactical. Lately the most popular moves have been 5...a6 and 5...Nc6, Carlsen favours 5...Bb4+, the classic 5..c5 is ok, and even 5...b5!? is viable. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 01:32, 26 April 2023 (UTC)