Talk:Catalpa rescue

Motion picture
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/case_irish/index.html?campaign=pbshomefeatures_4_secretsofthedeadbririshescape_2007-05-17

With some interest I note that filming in Australia is about to begin on a Motion picture epic called The Catalpa Rescue.petedavo 10:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for giving us this link. The film was made in Australia by Lisa Sabina Harney. It could be seen today on Arte (German/French TV) under the title Flucht aus dem Höllenkerker. Die legendäre Fahrt der Catalpa. I wonder why there is no translation of this article to more other languages. --13Peewit (talk) 20:00, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

what became of the six escapees?
any references? according to PBS, some or all could not adjust, hard labor etc too long....io-io (talk) 03:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

James Kiely
James Keily's account differs from that in the article [|The West Australian, 24 Feb 1905]

He states that he was part of the escape plot, but was unable to join due to an attentive warder.

The Catalpa arrived in New York in 1877, not 76 as stated in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.181.132.42 (talk) 05:35, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

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Whaleship vs whaleboat
Some of the early literature refers to Catalpa as a "whaleboat", which is fine. However, for our purposes I prefer "whaleship" for the reason that the word "whaleboat" more usually denotes one of the long rowboats which were lowered to go in pursuit of a whale (like the one which was used to transport the convict escapees out to sea). The colloquial "whaler" is regularly applied to both types of craft. Bjenks (talk) 04:26, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Pease/Anthony book
This book was ghosted by Pease on behalf of Anthony, and it is self-published by Anthony, so has no independent editorial oversight, even by the standards of the 19th century. Anthony was a sailor, not a writer or historian in any way. So it is not a RS Bumbubookworm (talk) 22:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * A fine point which would be most relevant to any disputed, questionable or controversial matters covered (which you might want to identify). The WP policy on verifiability specifies that "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities, without the self-published source requirement that they are published experts in the field, so long as:

Besides which, a ship's master may deemed to exercise far more expertise and accountability than an ordinary sailor, his duties including complex project and personnel management, navigation, record-keeping, communication with port authorities, etc, etc. And, as we know, Anthony was part of an activist community which included proficient journalists, editors, lawyers, etc. Bjenks (talk) 03:41, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * @Bumbubookworm--You need to answer the above and demonstrate that your rejection of the source is justified notwithstanding its clear eligibility under WP:V. If you are unable to do so, you should consider reviewing relevant edits.Bjenks (talk) 15:36, 19 April 2022 (UTC)