Talk:Catarina of Portugal, Duchess of Braganza

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The result of the move request was: page moved. NW ( Talk ) 21:20, 7 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Infanta Catherine of Guimarães, Duchess of Braganza → Catherine, Duchess of Braganza or Infanta Catherine, Duchess of Braganza

– First off the recent moves were undiscussed. "of Guimarães" is not necessary because she is most known for being Duchess of Braganza (even if by marriage) since she was the one who brought the royal claim to the illegitimate Braganza line. Her notability derived from her marriage into the Braganza family and the subsequent use of the title by her like say Diana, Princess of Wales for example. It is not necessary to indicate she is a second degree infanta like her sister because her sister is only under Infanta Maria of Guimarães because she is unnotable thus follows the arbitrary rules Wikipedia sets for the titles of royal women who married into other families that they are listed under their maiden name. This rule is ignored when the royal woman's married title or other title held during their lifetime is more significant than the one they derived from birth like Empress Elisabeth of Austria and Marie of Romania. Either we can move her back to Infanta Catherine, Duchess of Braganza or even just drop the Infanta all together and call her Catherine, Duchess of Braganza since it seems from what I read, she wore the pants in the house. --Relisted. --  tariq abjotu  17:33, 29 June 2013 (UTC) --The Emperor&#39;s New Spy (talk) 06:20, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Seems to need discussion/comparison.....e.g. Alexandra of Denmark is better known as Queen Alexandra, no? Or are royal/noble titles customarily omitted entirely?Skookum1 (talk) 16:39, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Catherine, Duchess of Braganza is the most common the other two are nearly unheard of.--The Emperor&#39;s New Spy (talk) 22:32, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
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