Talk:Catherine, Princess of Wales

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2nd public appearance since cancer diagnosis.
Catherine's 2nd public appearance since her cancer diagnosis was at Wimbledon today. Especially because of the continuing press speculation about her condition, I would suggest adding: citing and  -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Her next appearance was in July at the final of the 2024 Wimbledon Championships as royal patron.


 * But it would be trivial to continue adding material and provide a running commentary on her appearances. It will be WP:NOTNEWS. The fact that she attended the 2024 Trooping the Colour was enough. I have an alternative-I would add a reference related to her appearance and a related sentence but not exactly mention that she attended the Championships. Please wait and let me know if you like my version @Ssilvers. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 03:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ssilvers I have added a suitable sentence along with a high quality reference to address your suggestions. Her next one or two engagements may also be outlined here but only in the form of a single reference from the event. The sentence covers it all. Looking forward to your response. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 03:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No, that is decidedly worse. What she hoped is not encyclopedic. I am not suggesting a "running" commentary. But instead of adding speculations to the article and WP:BLUDGEONING the discussion, please revert that unhelpful addition, and wait to see if anyone else agrees with me. If the consensus is not to add my suggestion, fine. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ssilvers I agree with what you suggest. Given that I am improving the article for its second FAC, I would be pleased to invite any constructive suggestions from other uninvolved editors. The point is that the The Daily Telegraph article mentions the fact that it was her second public engagement since announcing her cancer diagnosis and her first since Trooping the Colour last month. So, the reference would stay.
 * Regards. MSincccc (talk) 04:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ssilvers Is the rephrased sentence fine? Please do put forth your suggestions, if any. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 04:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I have no violent objection to it, but it is even longer than what I proposed and contains a vague reference to "speculation". In your quest to tighten the article's prose for your next run at FAC, I think it would be better to say, more directly, "Her next appearance was in July amidst ongoing cancer treatment." If it turns out that she begins making more regular appearances, this could be changed to "She began to make more regular appearances in July amidst ongoing cancer treatment." -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:49, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Is it fine now @Ssilvers? MSincccc (talk) 04:55, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, except that, per WP:CITEKILL, you don't need 3 refs for the prev. sentence. You should keep the best two. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ssilvers If you have any further suggestions for the article, please feel free to post them at the peer review discussion page. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 05:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ssilvers If you have any further suggestions for the article, please feel free to post them at the peer review discussion page. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 05:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)