Talk:Catherine of Valois

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Allene Stone Gano Hughes, mother of Airman Howard R. Hughes, Jr., is a descendant of Catherine of Valois, Dowager Queen of England, by second husband Owen Tudor. Aldebaran69's information removed. No references cited otherwise. Please provide sources in future. Thank you for honoring rules.

"common ancestry?"
''It has been suggested that Henry ordered her memorial to be removed to distance himself from his common ancestry. ''

This doesn't really make sense -- Catherine was pure royalty! How would her tomb remind people of his common ancestry? --Jfruh (talk) 01:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I've changed 'common' to 'illegitimate'. She wasn't married to Owen Tudor when she bore his sons. I've also removed the part about the second 'marriage' because it appears to be a Tudor invention to grant Henry VII's reign legitimacy.

On the the descent from William the conqueror it says that Henry III is the son of John I and Isabella of Gloucester, but wasn’t his mother Isabella of Angoulême? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.62.20.219 (talk) 17:55, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Inconsistent with the Owen Tudor page
On the Owen Tudor page it mentions John Beaufort as the man Catherine was planning to marry:

"Queen Catherine, upon being denied permission by her son's regents to wed John Beaufort, Duke of Somerset, allegedly said upon leaving court, "I shall marry a man so basely, yet gently born, that my lord regents may not object.""

On the Catherine of Valois page it says it was Edmund Beaufort:

"Catherine was still young and might wish to remarry which concerned the Protector, the king's uncle, Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester. Rumours abounded that Catherine planned to marry Edmund Beaufort, Count of Mortain, her late husband's cousin."

Did she intend to marry both of them? That seems unlikely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.105.23 (talk) 21:43, 15 February 2011 (UTC)