Talk:Catskill Mountain Railroad

A bunch of new images
I just uploaded a bunch of images to Commons that I took on vacation last summer. I'm sure the hard-core railfans here can categorize them better than I can and select some good ones to use in various articles. Feel free to edit the image descriptions on Commons as appropriate. Have fun.


 * Image:CMRR Locomotive 29 Front Detail.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Car 701 Steps.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Car 701.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Car 271.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Coupling Side View.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Locomotive 29 Side Shadow View.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Locomotive Logo Detail.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Locomotive 29 Front View.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Locomotive 29 Side View.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Phoenicia Sign.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Marker 5.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Marker 4.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Marker 3.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Marker 2.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Marker 1.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Mount Pleasant.jpg
 * Image:CMRR Engine 29.jpg
 * Image:Railroad Coupling (CMRR).jpg

-- RoySmith (talk) 04:57, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Need more citations
This article is missing several citations in the paragraphs describing the conflict between the railroad company and Ulster Count. This has been a very contentious situation, and most of the material contributed has clearly been written by pro-railroad writers with no attempt to avoid loaded words and biased point of view. I have noted where citations are needed to give some time for previous contributors to add them. I changed wording in many places to be more neutral. Prairienut (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 11:33, 20 August 2014 (UTC) It appears that much of this article is original research and/or first hand experience not drawn from secondary sources. The more controversial points should be removed until they can be supported via proper citations. ^^^^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prairienut (talk • contribs) 21:13, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

In the paragraph on the Dec. 15, 2015 Ulster County resolution under "Threats to Service" is an uncited, unattributed opinion. I have asked for a citation. If none is provided within two weeks (Dec. 31, 2015), I will be removing the following sentence: "This resolution effectively ends the fight on rail vs. trail on the former U&D corridor, with rail and trail proponents pledging to work together from now on." Considering the more than 160 pointed comments on the cited news article, it appears the rail vs. trail controversy is not over. I will also remove certain sentences that I marked "citation needed" several months ago. These mostly describe goals of CMRR and are uncited. These statements need citations to reliable secondary sources, especially because they are not consistent with the recent resolution. Prairienut (talk) 14:26, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

I will wait at least another week before starting to remove statements that seem questionable and are not cited. Before removing a statement, I will first try to find a source and add the citation. I would appreciate help with this. If anyone knows of secondary sources (books, newspapers, websites) that support statements marked with "citation needed", please add the citation in the appropriate format. Thank you for your assistance in improving this article. Prairienut (talk) 20:16, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

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Lack of citations and poor page structure
As previously noted by another Wikipedian in 2016, this article has far too many uncited facts and claims. It also contains trivial information that results in a page that is far too long considering the importance of the topic. It reads in a stream of consciousness way lacking real structure and has received a C rating on the content assessment scale. Most of the uncited information should be removed: there are interesting, detailed claims that would be suitable for a personal website or perhaps even a book on the history of the railroad, but is not appropriate here. I have added a few citations and will add some more for items I can, but I will be removing a large number of statements that are questionable and not cited. Tagging for 3 recent editors: @Eehiv @Davidng913 @16ConcordeSSC

-MrRobertGoulet Mrrobertgoulet (talk) 15:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)