Talk:Caveat emptor/Archives/2013

opposite
An equally valid 'opposite' of Caveat emptor is "let the buyer be assured of the goods", surely. Can some learned web figure supply the appropriate latin phrase?

I would argue that 'caveat venditor' be returned to the article as it is an important concept in law and a counter to 'caveat emptor', if not an "opposite".--Daul21 05:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Caveat non emptor ("let the buyer not beware") or Sit credulus emptor ("let the buyer be trusting/gullible") would work. And yes, obviously caveat venditor must be mentioned here; whoever removed it is obviously unfamiliar with these phrases' history and assumed it was an ad-hoc fabrication for this article. -Silence 16:02, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * While you're discussing this, don't forget WP:NOR. W1k13rh3nry 01:02, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Exploratum emptor (The certain buyer)

Merge
I agree with Silence (who suggested the merge)- not worth having two stub articles over. They both are in regards to transactions. The only reason I could see the reason to not merge thim is if both articles are fleshed out substantially. Oscabat 22:10, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree, a merger would be very sensible Subwayguy 23:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Keep Separate
I caution against merging these two articles. They are not the same concept, but may be defined against one another. We would not suggest merging all synonymous terms into a single article. We would not suggest merging antonyms either. The length of an article does not determine the uniqueness of the concept. These two caveats are neither the same, nor truly opposites. While they are both Caveats, Lamborghini and Kia are both cars and more similar, should they be merged? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.67.201.117 (talk • contribs).


 * How are Lamborghini and Kia "more similar"? I have no idea why you would think that. —Keenan Pepper 03:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I would argue that perhaps these two articles should be merged because they both deal with caution in business transactions. Obviously, a redirect would need to be set up and possibly a new title given to the resulting combined article.  John Coxon 17:21, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest synonymous terms be simply linked as "synonym: (insert link)" and antonyms not being merged but providing links at the bottom... [User: LaDean Ahrens]

Colbert
I changed the heading on that section to popular culture ... Colbert wouldn't be the first person to use the term, and if his use of it is worth mentioning at all, then there will be other examples just as valid. Steve 06:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Bit of an odd reference
"BMW Isetta and Microcar collectors use Caveat Emptor when discussing Ebay seller "Italianmetals", who is said to sell reproduction parts that do not fit and offers no warranty or refunds."

Seems a bit odd to refer to an ebay member's selling history on an article on a latin phrase! Plus, sounds a little bit defamatory, not really what Wikipedia is for. Removed, it's ther in quotes if anyone wants to put it back in of course.

Run-on incomprehensible sentence
"The modern trend, however, is one of the Implied Warranty of Fitness that applies only to the sale of new residential housing by a builder-seller and the rule of Caveat Emptor applies to all other sale situations (i.e. homeowner to buyer)." Whut? It's all general sales stuff, and now suddenly it's just about housing; also, the second half of the sentence (as far as I'm able to understand it) totally contradicts the first half...

Explanation is ambiguous
I think the nature of the phrase is a few things, and the current explanation mixes them up. Is the explanation talking about a doctrine, or a practice, or a legal term entered in documents, etc. And how do people use it? Can someone organize it clearly?

Latin History
Both of these phrases have (I believe) a rich history dating back to Roman times. Should that be the major part of the introduction?

Big Fat Hairy Dude (talk) 03:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

'''In a film I saw recently, one of the characters said "Caveat emptor" and then what sounded like "Legalis Semper", as if finishing the phrase. Is "Caveat emptor" the short version of a longer phrase much as "Carpe diem" is an abbreviated version of "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero"? S.'''


 * Unless I'm much mistaken (quite possible, since I don't know Latin), "Legalis Semper" would mean something along the lines of "the eternal law." 68.102.237.253 (talk) 05:18, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Let the reader beware...
This article is a mess. 'Caveat emptor' is clearly a concept that has roots in Roman law (or perhaps doesn't...), and that is the logical place to start with any explanation. Only then do we need to be told how this applies (or doesn't) in the US, the UK, South Africa or where ever. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)