Talk:Cdrtools

New vandalism attacks against this article
A person from Norway that is well known for frequent vandalism attacks using IPs hits again.

This time, he claims that "modern" OS support SCSI transport via a file descriptor opened from a /dev/* based driver entry.

Provable fact is however that most OS do not support the non-standard /dev/* based interface for SCSI at all but rather only implement an interface that is identical or similar to the SCSI CAM standard interface.

Conclusion: There is somebody who likes do abuse Wikipedia to harm a OSS project with false claims. Software that ignores the SCSI CAM standard and that is based on SCSI transport on a filedescriptor opened from a /dev/* entry only, could only support 20% of the platforms that are supported by cdrecord and would need to ignore the vast majority of the installed computer base, as it could neither support MS Windows nor OSX.

The fact that cdrecord does not follow the wishes from people like our attacker, but rather honors existing standards results in the support for nearly any system in the world. Schily (talk) 10:05, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Please add source that back up this claim other than your web page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.121.239.188 (talk) 13:16, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Jorg Schilling has passed away
Just a heads up that Jorg Schilling has sadly passed away. See this mailing list posting for details. I had a very recent positive interaction with him. I recently was in contact with Mr. Schilling to report a bug in CDR tools. Even though he was (looking back) dying, he was very prompt in replying to me and discussing the bug with me over email. Prayers for his family.

In light of this, I have removed the COI template: The relevant editor isn’t going to be editing the Wikipedia again. I will also mark him as a deceased Wikipedian (Never mind, User:Mirji already did that: Thank you) Samboy (talk) 14:46, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

ASP paper
The cited paper does not provide these details which comprise the current statement in the topic: (a) who requested the activity, or how was Schilling originally involved, (b) exactly when this started is more precise in this topic than the paper. The remainder of the paragraph is unsourced, outside the scope of the paper. By the way, this is a large technical area with hundreds of players. That "at the request of" needs a specific source, which should be trimmed if no reliable independent source is found TEDickey (talk) 09:24, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

The larger picture ought to be in optical jukebox, but I see that it also is poorly sourced. I recall some of this and this from involvement with a related system. But back to the discussion: as given, the ASP paper was probably noticed in regard to Schilling's resume/cv. The paragraph needs relevant sources, and trimming where no source can be found TEDickey (talk) 10:34, 17 October 2021 (UTC)


 * This paper is fragment of a book. At previous chapter some canadians suggest the use of Gear (another commercial burning software), and cdrecord, mkisofs. But at page 271 in Europe were using cdrecord (because "public-domain code" -sic-?). Miguel Albrecht (from ESO) is mentioned as co-author of these chapters.--GM83 (talk) 21:24, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Cdrecord just was the opensource and european option. Gear is still used, for example in medical equipment. --GM83 (talk) 21:46, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * The paper does not support this text: "at the request of the data archivists of the European Southern Observatory". The actual means by which he became involved is not discussed in that paper (nor in the comment you mention in the preceding paper). TEDickey (talk) 23:02, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ESO requested a technology to burn DVD, CD, tapes. Canadians suggested Gear or cdrecord. Next chapter says "In early 1998, our major problem was the lack of Unix-based software to drive the DVD Pioneer. This problem was solved by J.S, who adapted [...] cdrecord to deal with the DVD-R"
 * Years later, in another paper were informing SW/HW: Solaris, Linux, Pioneer, Kodak, Panasonic and "a cdrecord-based DVD software".
 * Edit: explicitly "we contacted the developer of a public domain CD-R recording tool “cdrecord” [...] and arranged with him to extend his software for the production of DVD-Rs as well"
 * At least four papers made by Pirenne and Albrecht for ESO includes cdrecord or mkisofs. This article is about cdrtools, so Schilling (and Youngdale) biographies are out of scope.--GM83 (talk) 00:34, 19 October 2021 (UTC)


 * that point is addressed. There are several following statements in the paragraph which should be sourced TEDickey (talk) 07:56, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Reliable sources for dates
The existing sources for when features were added in the range 1996-2006 appear to be unreliable, because they (a) do not contain dates, and (b) appear to differ from the fragmentary change-logs in the existing schily-tools repository (which started in 2007). TEDickey (talk) 13:50, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The source code of the earlier versions is still available in archive.org (and all versions in https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/cdrecord/ ). According to mkisofs was available in ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/mkisofs, never was archived. I will include these links in the next days.--GM83 (talk) 18:27, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


 * What's needed is the date, e.g., as written by the developer (the content presented might imply that by its file-modification information, but that's not useful for this purpose) TEDickey (talk) 18:47, 6 August 2022 (UTC)