Talk:Celebrity Big Brother (British TV series) series 19

2017?
"The series launched on 3 January 2017 and will conclude after 32 days on 3 February 2016, " u mean 3 Feb 2017, not 16. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:4600:5A02:F52B:A40B:D19C:1FD5 (talk) 04:43, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ MSalmon (talk) 23:46, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Nominations names
When creating the nominations table, can we refer to Heidi & Spencer as 'Speidi'? Kyliechambers99 (talk) 08:05, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No, we refer to them as "Heidi & Spencer" as that is how they are credited on the show. ThisIsDanny (talk) 18:13, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Ray J
Occuring to some websites ray j was Ejected — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:864A:1200:8998:BA22:73AA:4556 (talk) 15:03, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Where? No evidence of this on the official website which is what matters. ThisIsDanny (talk) 17:20, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Austin's votes
I feel he votes for Austin to be evicted should be in the nominations table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.0.82 (talk) 16:41, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * They were not nominations, nor were they votes to evict. They were votes for the most dull housemate. However, the 3 housemates that remain in hell after tonight's task - the remaining housemates are voting for who they'd like to evict out of those, they can be included in the nominations table. Similar to Ryan's eviction in BB17. ThisIsDanny (talk) 16:56, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I have added Most votes because that is how many he got --MSalmon (talk) 17:55, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree that they shouldn't be included in the nominations table but would it be possible to include them somewhere else in the article that isn't the table? Perhaps in the Summary or the notes section? — RachelRice (talk, contribs) — 18:06, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * If it was to go anywhere I'd put them in the notes rather than summary. Summary is supposed to be basic. ThisIsDanny (talk) 13:09, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

21:17 - Nominations
Clearly stated as nominations. Can whoever building these tables based on unsourced guesswork please stop guessing. Leaky Caldron  21:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

what do the colours mean? What does "not eligible" mean? How do readers make any sense of this mess? Have either of you ever thought of explaining your actions? Leaky Caldron  23:35, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I wasn't the one who filled in the table, I was just putting the colours back to how it was MSalmon (talk) 23:42, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Why? Leaky  Caldron  23:43, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Because you removed them --MSalmon (talk) 23:43, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * So you reverted because I made changes without explaining. Just blind reverting? So a noticeboard exists for that and if you do it again,that's where we'll take it. You don't just do what your co-owner tells you. You have both been warned in the past about ownership. Leaky  Caldron  23:47, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Co-owner? MSalmon (talk) 23:48, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yellow means immunity - which is what the housemates earned by pressing the button. It's more understanding than everything being white. You even changed Chloe's big red eviction column white, why? I originally had no nominations because there wasn't nominations, they were playing to save themselves. Then you added the names, and I didn't want to disagree with you for this very reason (being accused of owning it again), but if you have some housemates nominating you can't have the others saying "no nominations" because it cancels it out. Which was why I changed it to not eligible and now apparently this is also wrong. ThisIsDanny (talk) 23:52, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I get that all these twists etc make it impossible for the table to be understood by everyone but regardless it's all explained in the notes below. I'm not getting into this again, we have different views on it. ThisIsDanny (talk) 23:55, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I made a mistake in the markup. They were nominations pure and simple. It is not for you to interpret it and put out what you think is OK. If the broadcast program states nominations 6 times in 2 minutes it is nominations. "Not eligible" is wrong.They were eligible - they chose not to push the button. Leaky  Caldron  23:57, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * And if someone makes edits and you change them, and they get changed back - you can't accuse them of blind reverting when you've not given any reasons for the changes to begin with. There's polite ways of putting things, yes I understand now that not eligible is probably wrong. So what else can it be? (Friendly discussion) ThisIsDanny (talk) 00:01, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Why not put text in each box such as "picked by Calum" for Kim? "Not eligible" simply means they were not allowed to do something. What? Leaky  Caldron  00:04, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Because I always try and follow that old out of date page I get told off for following. I just use the notes to explain things instead. Go with whatever you think - I do however think that's possibly the best way of putting it. These twists aren't making our lives easy. ThisIsDanny (talk) 00:08, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I hope that is better.Thanks for fixing the error. Can you see if the colours are correct though? Leaky  Caldron  00:24, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * There were no nominations this round. Each person was only capable of "nominating" their partner and nobody else; there was no choice element to it. All the immune housemates did was save themselves. It should be left as "no nominations" for all and Jessica, Chloe and Kim should still be on N/A. Keep it simple. -StigOfTheKrump (talk) 00:26, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * They were broadcast quite clearly as nominations. The broadcast is the WP:RS, otherwise there is no reliable source for anything at all in the table - even the article - should not exist. If you have an issue with use of "nomination" during the broadcast take it up with C5 or Endomol. People need to get over the fact that noms. take many different forms to the old fashioned diary room method. There was a choice - to nominate or not to nominate. No different to when certain individuals or groups were eligible or not in previous series. Just another nomination twist. Leaky  Caldron  00:34, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * can you seriously believe that your latest changes are clearer to the readers than the version you replaced? Can you explain please? Can you just not stand to see any other sensible contribution that might help lay-readers to understand the article? Leaky  Caldron  22:51, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't realise there was such a long-winded discussion about it. — RachelRice (talk, contribs) — 23:13, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

All Stars section
I just wanna know what the problem was with an "Outcome" section? All you wrote was "mess" and that's not very helpful. Devonruuurs (talk) 03:31, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * If this is the about the extra section added to the All-stars table, it wasn't needed and the way it was edited it ruined the table, the columns weren't wide enough. Whenever housemates have returned in the past, Ultimate Big Brother for example, we haven't added their outcome to the table. It shows their outcome in the nominations table, the summary, their individual housemate section and at the top of the page. It's just extra clutter. And "status" and "outcome" - how are readers who don't watch the show supposed to differentiate the two? ThisIsDanny (talk) 12:46, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Final Judgement?
At the minute the nominations table says 6 in the final and a double eviction this week (final judgement) but Emma only said 1 would leave on Sunday through the backdoor. She didn't mention a double. So it needs to be changed to a single and another column added for Tuesday's eviction. Unless a source is provided for the double? ThisIsDanny (talk) 17:56, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * One will be leaving on Sunday and another on Tuesday. Yesterday's nominations were the last ones for the series. MSalmon (talk) 17:58, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * So will the votes be carried over into Tuesday's eviction as well? If not and it's a vote to win then there will need to be single and 7 in the final column. ThisIsDanny (talk) 18:00, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure but probably they will be. The vote to win will open after Tuesday's eviction. MSalmon (talk) 18:02, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The vote to save will open after tonight's show and freeze tomorrow afternoon. The vote will then re-open after Monday's highlights show and close during Tuesday's show. MSalmon (talk) 18:05, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

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