Talk:Celier Xenon 2

Are these "Argon" Models variants of the Xenon 2?
https://web.archive.org/web/20230826182128/https://argo.aero/ FSbiran (talk) 18:23, 26 August 2023 (UTC)


 * While they look similar, that is a different manufacturer: https://argo.aero/contact1.html - Ahunt (talk) 18:54, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * "New 2020 model the ARGON 915 iS is successor of the well known Xenon’s family. The cabin is a one-piece carbon-fibre monocoque structure, similar to a Formula 1 racing car, both reducing weight and providing additional safety to the crew."
 * if you click on a button called "Xenon XL" you will be redirected to a website about their Argon 915 is
 * https://argo.aero/rotorcrafts-en.html
 * they also mention that their argon is built from a carbonfiber monocoque instead of a frame. FSbiran (talk) 01:38, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It seems that http://www.celieraviation.com/ redirects to https://argo.aero/ but it is not clear what the relationship is between this new manufacturer MANUFAKTURA Lotnicza Sp z o o and Celier Aviation. - Ahunt (talk) 01:55, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I did find a forum that has some theories on the companies and products, but nothing that meets WP:RS. Until we have something that can be cited I think we have to treat them as separate companies and separate aircraft. If refs can be found to establish WP:GNG then new articles on Argo and its products can be started. If we later find any refs that indicate a relationship that can be added then to tie them together. - Ahunt (talk) 13:29, 27 August 2023 (UTC)