Talk:Celldweller/Archive 1

Major revision April 2009
Previously, this page suffered from massive bloat, with nearly every minute action by Celldweller and FiXT cataloged. I've removed a lot of that and condensed everything into what I think are the necessary basics for an encyclopedic entry. I've also added citations for most of it, though there are some facts for which I still need to find sources. Please add them if you know them.

A note to mods: most of the citations I've inserted link to articles, interviews, and reviews collected on an exhaustive fan site. If that site's database is not deemed a reputable source, please let me know and I will work with them to find the original articles, either on the web or in print. --BrentonRyan (talk) 06:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Propane Nightmares
I think there should be a mention of their remix of Pendulum's Propane Nightmares from In Silico Limited Edition. -HobbesDS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.117.220 (talk) 01:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

The Last Firstborn
The song 'The Last Firstborn'-- could it be labeled as Electronic/Industrial Metal? Or Just Electronic/Metal? --68.111.94.78


 * the format of the track is industrial rock but that incorporates newer genres such as metalcore, psytrance and progressive trance. overall, i'd still call it 'industrial rock' but if i was speaking with someone who knows what industrial rock actually is then i'd say it's 'newer industrial rock, akin to zeromancer' --MilkMiruku 12:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I would still call it Progressive Rock, in my opinion Celldweller is still very similar to Zeromancer. Names like Metalcore are better to bands like Ministry. At the other hand I hate making new  music genres... So I don't like words like Psytrance or whatever. Michu Neo, --87.205.34.183 13:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Most reviews and the like that I've seen label it as an industrial/trance hybrid. I wouldn't say that any of the genres listed above are incorrect, but for the sake of brevity I'd probably go for encompassing genres. NorseOdin 18:27, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Eyris
so what exactly is an 'eyris'? googling it only gives a model of tannoy speakers. --MilkMiruku 12:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I would wager that it is an alternative/pretentious approach to spelling the word "iris". 63.233.13.39 23:53, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


 * hehe, probably, but why is it mentioned if no-one knows what it means? --MilkMiruku 01:55, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * this is a device which projects a funky blue light and registers how far away your hand is from the unit. as you move your hand towards/away from it, it sends a message to change the sound coming from (presumably) an attached keyboard or sampler). see http://sadchild.cjb.net/celldweller/wikipedia/eyris.jpg -sadchild 05:17, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * perhaps it is a Theremin (or a variant of the device)? -sadchild 20:57, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * my understanding of it is that it was similar in concept to a theremin but operated under different principles - whereas a theremin uses radio frequency, Klayton's eyris uses LED sensors. This may be something to ask Klayton about in his new Q&A spots on FiXT... -BrentonRyan 00:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Random points
Four band members are mentioned in the touring band discussion but only 3 listed as band members

The DVD single to Switchback isn't mentioned.

Klayton has also been working with Criss Angel - which is not mentioned and could cause more delays to the second Celldweller disc.

The new Switchback/Own Little World Remix EP isn't mentioned in the discography.

Someone has removed some of the external links, including the one to Klay's MySpace.

Should there be a section about the extensive activity of Celldweller within the remix community? (e.g. the remix competitions)

Dosen't it seem odd that his name is not mentioned once, or is calling him "Scott Albert" taboo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.175.7 (talk) 00:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Misc
March 2007 is apparently 'month of the wikipedia jackasses'. Going through the history of stupid edits could make a grown man cry

Not sure if Scott Albert is his real name either, probably his first and middle name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.165.249 (talk) 18:58, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Comparison

 * Celldweller's style could be described as Depeche Mode, Linkin Park, Atreyu and Andy Hunter° combined.

Is this really relevant? These bands are drastically different from Celldweller and I think it would be more concise to simply mention the similarity to Linkin Park and Nine Inch Nails. Any reply would be appreciated. Elsebroke 10:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * We should take out the "Recommended if you like..." comparison entirely unless it is reliably sourced. Klayton's work is quite hard to classify.  It's like looking at Last.FM's page on Anathallo and determining what they sound like based on what else their listeners listen to. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 03:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Second Album
Cleaned up a bit regarding the second album, Klayton posted unmentioned info about the album from time to time, and the album name has been mentioned numerous times. Although nothing is 100% confirmed and its pretty much tentative it shouldnt go unmentioned. --Carbo45 10:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Soundtrack for the Voices in My Head - Vol 1
Needs something about the above album? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.176.217 (talk) 19:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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What?
I'm removing the list of influences that state "noise rock, synthpunk, thrashcore, rapcore and later, crossover thrash." I love Celldweller, but it isn't influenced by ANY of these. Just saying it here so people know about it. Have a problem, bring it up here 24.196.116.111 (talk) 03:03, 15 November 2008 (UTC) Some guy
 * Listen to "Stay with me(Unlikely)" and then tell me theres no rapcore influence.--70.119.201.161 (talk) 14:35, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Popularity
Over the years, after the Celldweller debut album was released, many new fans have began to rise and have taken interest and love into Celldweller's (Klayton) music. The reason why Celldweller has been getting popular is because his rousing music has been heard everywhere in Movies/Tv/Video Games and Trailers for everything. Just recently, Switchback was used for a Jimmy Johns commercial. Celldweller has gain alot of popularity around the world over the years. And with the Sophmore album coming up somewhere in 2009, all the Cell-mates hope that the new album, will make Celldweller well-known by everybody. Surely this section isn't needed in its current form? Very poorly written. --121.44.90.145 (talk) 14:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Source?
It states that there is a citation needed for the reference to the source of the name of Celldweller. I think that the section should be removed if there is no citation, as unless we can get a quote from Scott Albert himself, his name is open to interpretation. In fact, this line, "The name "Celldweller" is derived from the terms "Cellar" and "Dweller", a reference to his early years of being a "basement dweller"." seems to be entirely formed from the author's opinion, as his "official" (there is no citation) statement is that it is a reference to ""personal and cultural bondage" as well as the way that Klayton closes himself off from the outside world at times." This seems to me to be more of a "Cell"Dweller of a Prison, not of a cellar or basement. The comment about the meanings of the songs can also be misleading, and should be removed as well without a citation. 66.61.45.124 (talk) 16:33, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Musical Style section
Shouldn't there be a section describing Celldweller's musical style and how it has changed over its career? - 23:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)


 * There should. I've added an empty section with a tag to ask for additional info. Vortiene (talk) 02:59, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Genre in Infobox
There are way too many genres in the infobox. In accordance to Template:Infobox musical artist there should be only 2-4 generalised genres mentioned, so I believe what we should do is simply use; Electronic, Metal and Rock since they are the most generalised genres, all the genres mentioned in the infobox are more specific sub-genres and can be mentioned in the Musical Style section once created. 00:59, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Different image
The image in use was more of a commercial image and is typically used as desktop wallpapers, shouldn't there be a better photo? I have looked on google for "Labeled for Reuse" and have found these images to be of a much better fit: All of these are basic live photos, if you dont agree with them then simply search for others: https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=%22Scandroid%22&tbs=sur:f&tbm=isch#q=Celldweller&safe=off&tbm=isch&tbs=sur:f
 * http://www.flickr.com/photos/mazdotnu/8615893535/
 * http://www.flickr.com/photos/captf/8927465686/
 * http://www.flickr.com/photos/mazdotnu/8615894923/
 * http://www.flickr.com/photos/captf/8927464784/

I double that post, we should change the picture since it doesn't really resemble neither Celldweller's logo, nor his iconic red-black hair. - PsychoClown 666 (talk) 23:19, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Licensing
This section comes across as completely trivial, and it's unsourced. I believe this section should just be removed on this basis alone, can someone tell me why we should keep the section otherwise? - SilentDan (talk) 16:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

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