Talk:Cellphone surveillance

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 * Cellphone spying
 * Cellphone spying
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 * Cellphone spying

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This list is very incomplete. For example: where are the relevant cell phone spying standards? Such as the command SMS messages that tell your SIM card to do special operations? Such as extracting the list of phone numbers in your phonebook (on SIM as well as in your phone) and sending it quietly back? There are many standards known not to have any legitimate use. Or even the old GSM standards (1997 or so) that allow the phones to communicate via different means and phone location and reporting standards. (Not to mention the new standards demanding mandatory GPS receiver in all mobile phones in certain countries, this can be queried remotely, also without notifying the user.)

With current component base, it is very possible to construct a base station which is the size of a cigarette pack, if such demand ever arises. Even amateurish attempts on listening using one of the omnipresent USB GSM data modems has been demonstrated.

Not to mention the "phone call redirect" call monitoring and recording that is built-in as the basis on which phone calls work. (Worldwide phone network is something like a private 'internet', where there are many options how to command the re-routing a phone call via spots on the network. The simplest attack there is that a part of the network simply asks the rest of the network to redirect calls from a certain number trough their spot. And it just executes, no questions asked.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.64.18.165 (talk) 08:03, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

This article needs help
As many people noted, this article really needs some help. This is a relevant topic right now and it deserves a comprehensive article.

A few things we need to do:
 * sift through the references to find relevant information for citation
 * remove irrelevant / obsolete citations
 * cite or remove all things in this document
 * expand with better and more relevant information

Here are some references we can use right now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_surveillance_in_New_York_City#Cellphone_tracking (see citations) https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/2019-08/Report_Cell_Surveillance_Privacy.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpenter_v._United_States

I'm going to adopt this article and try to do some of this work, but I highly encourage and welcome anyone joining me!

Tecuixin (talk) 15:50, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Merger discussion
I noticed several articles which are exploring the larger topic of phone surveillance. I want to discuss the possibility of merger, because it seems as though there is a fair bit of redundant material.

Please feel free to disagree and keep the articles split. I am in favor of whatever makes the most sense on this topic.

Specifically I think these articles should be merged in:
 * Phone surveillance
 * Mobile phone tracking
 * (did I miss any others?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tecuixin (talk • contribs) 16:12, 22 October 2019 (UTC)


 * this morning while looking into this I can see that mobile phone tracking is not a good candidate for merger, it's about GPS and location data (duh!). But maybe some of the content can be linked to a main merged article? still looking for thoughts and opinions, I've never merged articles before! Tecuixin (talk) 14:08, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

COVID 19 apps
Hello Users, I have made an [| edit] here but was told it was not made for voluntary apps, but because of this, I would like to go over the edit that was made and how to change it to fit it better. I have, in my edit, used known names like mobile phone surveillance, mobile spying which had been undone, but why? I don’t get it when it’s just another name for it. I’d like to add COVID-19 apps too, because of, like at one of the contents in the page, it has “Ethical principles of mass surveillance using COVID-19 contact tracing apps” among the other contexts, which could be added too in some way or put there right, which are to do with phone surveillance, why I think content like these should be added is because both are related to phones, surveillance, signals, real-time location and others that go in with it IDCOVReveal (talk) 19:22, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The issues with the COVID-19 apps are thoroughly documented in that article, although if you have found additional information that isn't covered in that section, you should add it there. Do you have multiple reliable sources that routinely refer to "cellphone surveillance" as "mobile phone surveillance" and "mobile spying"? Unless they are common terms used in reliable sources for the same concept covered in this article, they shouldn't be mentioned. Schazjmd   (talk)  21:11, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Phone hacking
Mangal 2409:4060:E94:9A52:0:0:640A:190A (talk) 05:45, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

yes Richardbitangcol (talk) 18:46, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

yes Richardbitangcol (talk) 18:47, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

yes Richardbitangcol (talk) 18:47, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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