Talk:Celtis australis

I tried to translate the title from the spanish and the nederlands title, but I'm not sure about the English name. Can anyone help ? Thanks, Danny-w 09:56, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

incomplete text
it seems that the text is incomplete; the Habitat and the Uses sections manly. any hint on the rest of the text? PedroCarvalho (talk) 14:55, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Staunch or astringe to describe medical use
According to Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Eleventh Edition (c)2007, astringe is not one of the listed english words. Staunch is included in the listed words meaning:"1: to check or stop the flowing of; also:to stop the flow of blood from (a wound)". Since the leaves of Celtis australis are described in the article as astringent and astringent substances staunch the flow of blood and fluids, it seems that staunch ought to be used to describe the medicinal action. User 80.34.97.69 added the rare word astringe in an edit at 21:48 hours on the 3rd of September in 2006. The meaning of this word was not explained. Since I did not find astringe in the dictionary I changed it to staunch. Nadiatalent changed the word to astringe, claiming in the edit summary to have reverted a change in meaning. If there is supposed to have been a change in meaning, astringe would have to mean something. So, Nadiatalent, what does astringe mean? Is its meaning available in some reference work? I had hoped the explanation I provided in my edit summary would be sufficient to explain the change from astringe to staunch. User:Fartherred from 207.224.86.211 (talk) 21:43, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * My edit of Celtis Australis changing astringe to staunch was made as User:207.224.85.91. I have no control of the IP# assigned to me.  User:Fartherred from 207.224.86.211 (talk) 23:00, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Nadiatalent has not explained the meaning of astringe nor cited a reference that lists it as a word. So I intend to change astringe back to stanch. User:Fartherred from 207.224.86.211 (talk) 21:24, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Webster's Online Dictionary, "to bind together : cause (tissue) to draw together", doesn't sound like the same meaning as "to check or stop the flowing of; also:to stop the flow of blood from (a wound)". Nadiatalent (talk) 11:18, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I was unable to read a definition from Webster's Online Dictionary because I did not sign up for a free trial. However I did see that it is included in the word list of the unabridged dictionary.  I believe it is generally best to avoid using words that are not in a standard desk dictionary, but if in this case you think increased technical accuracy justifies the use of astringe, go ahead.  The reason an astringent can be used to treat diarhoea is that it stops the flowing of fluids from the intestinal walls.  This tends to prevent dehydration and electrolyte imbalance.  Stanch also means to make watertight, stop up.  This relates to the fragment of a definition that you posted in that drawing the tissue together happens at the same time as making the tissue more watertight, thus stopping flow. Fartherred (talk) 03:30, 8 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I read the definition of astringe in an unabridged dictionary. It is as Nadiatalent wrote.  There is some argument for using unspecialized vocabulary in Wikipedia, but I will return the use of astringe in the article to the way I found it until I can make a change that I know is an improvement. Fartherred (talk) 03:57, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Does Celtis australis prefer acid, neutral or basic soil?
ClueBot NG reverted user:80.42.204.99 with revert ID:1167810. The edit should have been made to the talk page but it was not vandalism. User:80.42.204.99 has a point. Celtis australis cannot prefer acid, neutral and basic soils. Two out of the three maybe but not all three. Perhaps it thrives in all three. If so the article should so state. Meanwhile I will remove the impossible. - Fartherred (talk) 02:22, 12 August 2012 (UTC)