Talk:Cement shoes

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"Concrete shoes" are mentioned in the AC/DC song "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap". The song's page already points this article.


 * The mention of "cement shoes" in the song may be of note for the song and linked to here from the song page for explanation, but the mention of songs or stories with a "cement shoes" or "concrete overcoat" mention could lead to a disproportionate trivia section here. --Naaman Brown (talk) 13:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

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I always thought that cement shoes referred not to a method of execution but rather a method of disposing of the body. There aren't any sources listed, so I suppose the article could be wrong? - markegli (talk) 19:35, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The whole point of it is to kill the person and dispose of the body at the same time, so its 50/50. --Japoniano (talk) 20:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Anyone conscious would resist getting any part of his body encased in cement. It takes time to set, time in which many other methods of murder are easier. I suspect that the deceased is already dead before the cement is applied to the feet, hands, or other body parts. I suspect that although it is an effective way to dispose of a body. it is not an effective way of killing someone. It is easier to drown someone in a tub or pool than to cast a live, struggling victim into a lake or ocean. Pbrower2a (talk) 08:01, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Merge Cement overcoat
Yes, Cement overcoat should be merged into this article. It makes no sense to have two articles describing similar variants on using concrete to dispose of someone. Astronaut (talk) 20:42, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right - I have done so! - DavidWBrooks (talk) 23:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

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Peter Martinez
"Encasing his legs up to the shins" - those would be "feet" 210.54.33.227 (talk) 17:24, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

"sleeps with the fishes"
Our article states that cement shoes gave rise to the fish phrase. However the etymology at Wiktionary does not suggest this is true. For one thing, sleeping with the fish goes back to the ancient Greeks. Second, the most famous modern Mafia novel The Godfather uses the phrase, but not in the context of cement shoes. Third, our article is unsourced so it looks like a supposition. -- Green  C  16:10, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Similar methods of weighing a corpse
There have been incidents of gang killings and body-hidings in rivers or ocean bays by weighting the victim and/or corpse with a motor-car engine block, an iron bedstead, and similar.

cement vs concrete
The article cites a source which says it is "technically concrete", a mixture of cement and sand/gravel. However, it is perfectly acceptable to make cement shoes without gravel or sand - the cement will harden into a solid block regardless. If you have seen an old bag of cement in the garage, or at a construction site, that got wet and hardened into a block of stone-like white material. It will not have good strength, which means it's never done in most end applications. But for cement shoes who cares. All you need is a bag of cement, water, enough time to harden 24-48 hrs, no movement while setting, and bang the air bubble out so it doesn't float. -- Green  C  21:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC)