Talk:Censorship of TikTok

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The provided article on "Censorship of Tiktok" does well to describe the recent history of governments banning the app, however is misleading in its title and lead section. For example, the lead section claims that India only pursued a ban of the app due to conflicts with China, but the article elaborates on prior bans from the country citing indecency on the app. Along with this, another improvement to the lead section would be to mention the Armenian and Pakistani bans as described later in the article. One change to the overall article which would improve its clarity would be further descriptions on why certain countries have decided to ban Tiktok. If the article draftee had chosen to describe examples of the "pornography" and "inappropriate content" which forced bans of the app from India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, and Pakistan, then an understanding of why the censorship occurs can be fortified. Along with this, the use of the word "censorship" in the title is a bit extreme, as it is less of the app being blocked from users to prevent the spread of information but more for its questionable content for specific cultures and concerns of data security on the part of India and the US. As well, more. elaboration should be given to the history of the US ban on Tiktok- though the "Donald Trump- Tiktok Controversy" is cited as a separate article, more information could have been given to contextualize the lawsuit and describe the changes in ownership as a result of the compromise found between Bytedance and the US government. My last recommendation for improving the article would be to keep the capitalization consistent across the lead and "India" section. Overall, however, the article's greatest quality comes from its simplicity in describing different cases of bans based on geography. Vanguard826 (talk) 23:33, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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Peer Review
This article starts off strong especially with the great number of citations that are included to support the context of the material. The article starts off by mentioning ByteDance with a link to what exactly Bytedance is, however, in regards to this specific page it would be helpful to the reader to know some brief context about Bytedance and what connection it has to own Tiktok. The article then sharply transitions into citing pornography concerns, there could possibly be a smoother transition included here. I believe mentioning a variety of countries contributes to a strong point about censorship because it displays how different government systems deal with censorship over the media. The article links a different article when referencing the United States; in order to make this article more appealing and detailed in context, the United States should have some sort of mention and be talked about in detail. The United States is greatly known for having an issue with TikTok in 2020 so this should be highlighted. There also should be specific examples of media that were considered censored, this would add a better understanding of just how censored TikTok was in multiple countries. The article's strongest aspect is its elaboration on the ban in India; greater detail in other countries would be helpful to get a broader aspect on this issue. Maddydowling27 (talk) 05:59, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Peer Review BG
All in all, I think that the article is very strong and sets up many great examples of how TikTok has been banned around the world, specifically because of concerns of pornographic content. I would suggest adding a few more details about each case and also adding in information about the Trump Administration's policy regarding Tik Tok. In addition, I would add in information about how the Biden Administration has handled the cases since he took office, if there has been any action taken. Another piece I would add in is information about how China and ByteDance have reacted to these bans and how China has managed its policy regarding TikTok and ByteDance. What is it like there? Does China censor it or do they let them do their thing? Thank you for your article, it is definitely informative and interesting to read!

Bgallardo225 (talk) 04:27, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

This article should be about the censorship BY tiktok
This article should be about the censorship BY tiktok, not OF tiktok. It is mistitled. Tiktok regularly censors content that is found objectionable by the communist party in China. Ergzay (talk) 01:51, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
 * There is already a separate Censorship by TikTok article covering that topic. -- Beland (talk) 17:19, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Possible additions to article
What I plan on adding to Censorship of TikTok:

- Given that some subsections have very little information on the censorship of TikTok that these countries have endured, I think it would be ideal to elaborate on.

- https://www.nst.com.my/world/region/2021/08/718633/bangladesh-court-orders-ban-tiktok-pubg-free-fire-save-children

- https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/world/asia/tik-tok-banned-india-china.html

- https://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/tiktok-ban-pakistan-lift-back-content-vulgar-obscene-complaint-2620149

- There are other countries that have also censored the application, so I plan to research and add information about countries that are not yet included in the article.

- https://mincom.gov.az/en/view/news/990/azerbaijan-limits-internet-access-to-prevent-armenias-large-scale-acts-of-provocation-

- The United States subsection seems bare by only including a hyperlink to Donald Trump–TikTok controversy. I am not sure what to add as of now, but given the sheer size of the TikTok controversy in the US, there is definitely something that is worth adding.

- There are many grammatical and formatting errors that I plan on fixing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kassandras1029 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Sources that could help this article
- https://bciptf.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Joe-Swain_Fall-2021_Publication-2.pdf (a published essay written to explain the U.S involvement in wanting to ban Tiktok, specifically Trump) - https://freedomhouse.org/country/armenia/freedom-net/2021#footnote1_f7dslom (a government funded organization that focuses on Armenia's ban on social media) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgonzalezdev (talk • contribs) 21:41, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

TikTok is still banned in Jordan
The article is wrong 94.249.66.170 (talk) 06:48, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Updated. -- Beland (talk) 17:42, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

The world map
I think the map should have the US hatch marked to distinguish between state/DC/insular area-level and Federal bans. This is a good article overall. 2603:6081:4:5900:3596:58E3:B0C1:C9CB (talk) 01:43, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed, especially given the new Montana ban. -- Beland (talk) 17:19, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hmm, there's actually already a state-level U.S. map further down in the article. -- Beland (talk) 17:23, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Banned vs Blocked
Can somebody explain the difference between Tiktok being banned vs being blocked in China? I also asked about this on the wiki commons discussion for the map referenced in this article here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Censorship_of_Tik_Tok.svg ParkerFriedland (talk) 06:39, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Does anybody here have any objections to me ether merging the "TikTok not available because Douyin is used instead, which is a heavily censored version of TikTok used in China." category into the "TikTok banned on public sector" catagory (or merging them both into a "TikTok blocked on public sector" if there is a difference between it being banned and blocked)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ParkerFriedland (talk • contribs) 08:23, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The captions all now say "banned". But I'm confused as to the difference between "on public sector" (which is not grammatical) vs. "on governmental devices"? Distinguishing areas that have Douyin vs. nothing I would keep because it is meaningful and informative. -- Beland (talk) 17:18, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, I figured it out based on the article text; "on public sector" means "for all users". I changed the caption. -- Beland (talk) 17:32, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Fist paragraph
I believe this article does a great job describing the TikTok bans in each country and is very well backed by resources. Even though this is true I see an issue with the first paragraph. The first paragraph discusses some reasons TikTok is banned in some countries, but I do not believe it does a good job with describing these things. It seems a little biased. It states reasons for TikTok bans include, “concerns from the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, ownership by a Chinese parent company ByteDance, pornography, human trafficking, and toxic content.” Only some things from this statement are followed up later in the article. No where in the article does it discuss human trafficking or toxic content. I feel these things should be removed.Tankt42 (talk) 20:13, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Azerbaijan
The paragraph under Azerbaijan discusses how users in Armenia reported restrictions of many social media platforms including TikTok, but I do not agree with the why portion of this paragraph. The why part of this paragraph states that it was an “attempt to "prevent large-scale provocations from Armenia.” This may be true but a better way to describe it or a great addition would be “The State Security Service of Azerbaijan announced the official suspension of TikTok on grounds of national security, stating that military secrets and misinformation were being spread on the platform.” (Netblocks, 2022). https://netblocks.org/reports/tiktok-restricted-in-azerbaijan-and-armenia-amid-clashes-over-nagorno-karabakh-3An4pky2 Tankt42 (talk) 20:47, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Dates
Another great addition to each of the different countries would be when these bans may have started. Some countries do not have dates such as Iran, Malta, and the United States. Tankt42 (talk) 20:47, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

The United States
The United States paragraph does a great job at explaining the bans of TikTok in the country but does not have very many specifics nor does it discuss the almost total ban of TikTok. A good thing to add would be how Montana was the first state to ban TikTok, what that means for Montana and how other states followed soon after. https://news.mt.gov/Governors-Office/Governor_Gianforte_Bans_TikTok_in_Montana#:~:text=The%20governor%20signed%20Senate%20Bill,the%20Montana%20Department%20of%20Justice. Another great thing to add would be how TikTok almost got banned completely. “In August 2020, former US President Donald Trump signed an executive order that would have banned TikTok and WeChat in the US, citing national security concerns. However, the order was temporarily blocked by a federal judge and later revoked by President Biden” (Anita, 2023 https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/timeline-tiktok-bans-restrictions-worldwide-chiama-anita#:~:text=In%20May%202018%2C%20Iran%20banned,concerns%20about%20%22immoral%22%20content. Tankt42 (talk) 20:48, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

TikTok Measures
I believe this article ends very abruptly and does not have much of a conclusion. A great way to possibly fi this would be to add a final section that discusses what TikTok is doing to help reduce or end these bans. We could title the section TikTok Measures” and describe what is has put in place to fix the issues with its platform. Some of these things include, new moderation policies, data privacy practices, content policies, content advisories to help with things like safety, hate speech, and misinformation, storing user data locally, and addressing concerns of national security (Anita, 2023). https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/timeline-tiktok-bans-restrictions-worldwide-chiama-anita#:~:text=In%20May%202018%2C%20Iran%20banned,concerns%20about%20%22immoral%22%20content. Tankt42 (talk) 20:49, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

The web link is broken!!
The “Banpedia” website is just a link to GoDaddy! 2601:5C5:4380:FD80:29D6:D6FB:82A3:862E (talk) 05:56, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Not banned in Montana anymore
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/30/1205735647/montana-tiktok-ban-blocked-state Daoortor (talk) 17:45, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Right, I think we need the help of someone who knows how to edit that world map. It still shows Montana as red even though the article says a federal judge blocked the ban. 192.147.66.4 (talk) 19:22, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Wrong title
The subject of this article is the "banning" of a web application, you cannot "censor" an app because it is a platform/tool for facilitating communication not a form of communication or communicator its self. 2A00:23EE:2380:F57:FC87:8AFF:FE1F:751A (talk) 10:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @ 203.192.238.167 (talk) 08:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)