Talk:Center for Chinese Language and Cultural Studies

Name
Many official documents from the school (even newly-created ones) still list it as the Mandarin Training Center. It's very odd. Only the website has this name - and only a few of the pages. I think they've gotten stuck in changing the English name from MTC to CCLC. Aep 17:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The name Mandarin Training Centre still seems to be in common use by the school. It is the name currently on the website and at signs around the school. It was also used on the letter of admission that I got in May 2007. Davidreid 12:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I also have been accepted to the Mandarin Training Center, not the CLCC. I recommend changing the name of the article back. Petercoyl 00:17, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I recommend putting this article back under "Mandarin_Training_Center" with CCLC forwarding to it. The university never really dropped "Mandarin Training Center" and recently it returned to using the name exclusively.


 * NTNU introduced "CCLC" as a larger division circa 2003. Internationally, though, MTC was far too established and successful a "brand" for people to abandon using that as the name for the center. In 2006 NTNU's Department of Chinese underwent some reorganization to accommodate expanded offerings in the field of Teaching Chinese as a Second Language. In this context the name "Mandarin Training Center" had much to offer the cause of clarity. The Mandarin Training Center trains you in Mandarin just as the French Training Center trains you in French; it doesn't train you to become a teacher of Mandarin, which is the work of another department.


 * The web pages are still found at "mtc" and display an MTC logo; signs on campus direct you to the "Mandarin Training Center" along with the French Training Center and the rest (see photo); the Alumni Association remains the "MTCAA"; affiliated informal networks, such as Facebook groups, still refer to the program as MTC. The designation CCLC has meanwhile disappeared from the few places it had been being used (web site application, printed materials).


 * Alton 16:00, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Chinese?
I think the term Chinese could be replaced with "Chinese and Taiwanese" or "Taiwanese" in some cases. Also it is better to say Taiwan rather than the Republic of China. I know people might argue that ROC is still the country's official name, but its meaning is too ambiguous. Taiwan very clearly refers to Taiwan. Davidreid 12:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * In Wikipedia I prefer that we say Taiwan (R.O.C.) whenever the name of the country is first introduced. (R.O.C. can link to the article "Republic of China" for anyone who is curious.) After that we just say "Taiwan" unless the R.O.C. Constitution or formal titles derived from it are specifically under discussion. This conforms to both native and international usage. It is how you address a letter to someone living in Taiwan, how universities and other official institutions show the name of the country in their addresses, and how international media sources (BBC, AP, CNN, etc.) refer to the country.


 * I agree that the apparent preference in Wiki right now for "Republic of China" as a default is nonstandard, ambiguous, and confusing to readers unfamiliar with the island's complex history. It is merely literal, in legal terms.


 * Alton 16:46, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Hanzi Name
Id like to include the actual Chinese for the Mandarin Training Center (師大的國語中心). Any objections?Petercoyl 18:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)