Talk:Central Park/Archive 2

Sheep moved where in 1934?
At the end of the previous section as on a graphic at the start of the 1900-1960 section it is stated the flock of sheep were moved to different locations in 1934. The previous section says "Upstate", and the graphic indicates they were moved to Brooklyn. I'm fairly sure no one considers Brooklyn upstate from Manhattan:) Were they moved to Brooklyn and THEN to some undisclosed upstate farm? This seems contradictory as it is currently written. 204.65.34.222 (talk) 22:11, 15 January 2013 (UTC) I just noticed that too, I will investigate.Alexschmidt711 (talk) 15:43, 10 November 2013 (UTC) I couldn't find a mention of the farm upstate outside of Wikipedia. Will fix.Alexschmidt711 (talk) 22:13, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Epicgenius (talk) 17:03, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Tone mapped photos
Some of the photos in this article, including the main photo of the article, employ a really horrible-looking, badly-done tone-mapping/local contrast enhancement ("HDR") effect, seemingly from someone who has newly discovered how to do this in Photoshop. It looks tacky and unprofessional in my humble opinion. 120.148.163.119 (talk) 23:37, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Examples: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bethesda_Fountain_in_2007.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Southwest_corner_of_Central_Park,_looking_east,_NYC.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Look_out_point_on_the_lake_at_Central_Park,_NYC.jpg 120.148.163.119 (talk) 23:39, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you replace it? Epicgenius (talk) 17:03, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * As this picture hasn't been replaced in 4+ years, I went to take a non-HDR replacement (see below). If there's any issues about swapping the current picture with this picture - let me know (especially since this is a highly visible page). Otherwise, I'll swap it out sometime this weekend. Epicsunwarrior (talk) 02:35, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen this discussion in years. Yeah, your image is probably better. But it's worth noting, back when I made that comment, the image looked like this, which was really dull. And then there's that HDR picture which looks too over-saturated. epicgenius (talk) 16:21, 29 July 2019 (UTC)



My eye agrees that the heavily adulterated fountain picture is horrible, and the lead picture is not good. Suitable images, including ones where tone mapping had a good result, are plentiful in Commons:Category:Bethesda Fountain and other parts of the Commons Central Park category tree. Since many of the pictures there are mine, and many are used in other articles, I am reluctant to pick among the candidates but I do encourage our thoughtful fellow editors to make a selection.


 * The last one is particularly bad. The article really needs more documentary-style snapshots - actual photographs of the park, *not* people trying to show off their HDR and/or drive traffic to their website. Why is it always HDR? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 17:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 16 February 2015

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: not moved. There's no support for this proposal. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:37, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Central Park → Central Park (New York) – Many places around the world are called "Central Park (disambiguation)" and so it would not make sense to allow the one in New York City to be considered the primary topic. &#60;&#60;&#60; SOME GADGET GEEK &#62;&#62;&#62; (talk) 18:37, 16 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose This is the primary topic. Unless there's a long history of incorrect incoming links to this article, I don't see any reason to move it.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 19:01, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * oppose unless evidence is shown that other "Central Parks" are commonly referred to as "Central Park" Deunanknute (talk) 19:09, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * There are. Nom pipe-linked the dab page in the nom (removed now for clarity) In ictu oculi (talk) 10:49, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Good work! Red Slash 20:25, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose. This subject is by far the primary topic. Steel1943  (talk) 19:19, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Question User:Some Gadget Geek what is the total % of all hits for the other Central Park (disambiguation) entrants in Google Books? In ictu oculi (talk) 10:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * It may fit the definition of primary topic with respect to usage now, but in terms of long-term significance there are so many new places named Central Park (disambiguation) that one may soon become equally as, if not more, well known as this one that it becomes necessary to disambiguate between the two, as well as the rest.
 * Besides, using common sense this Central Park is unambiguous in New York only and may most often refers tp other things elsewhere - if a new Central Park (skyscraper) is being built in some city, residents will imply the name Central Park to refer to that skyscraper and not the New York park. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Some Gadget Geek (talk • contribs) 13:56, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * If and when another "Central Park" becomes or even approaches the notability of this one, disambiguation should be looked into. Doing it now approaches WP:BALL. As far as a new Central Park (skyscraper), has this ever actually caused any confusion, particularly with respect to Wikipedia? What about the many places that are not immediately local to a "central park"; would the people in these areas get confused if you referred to "Central Park" without clarifying New York, or would they assume this is the one being referred to? Obviously these questions don't have concrete answers, but it appears as if most editors, so far, would agree with this assessment. Can you show any evidence to the contrary? Deunanknute (talk) 14:18, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Clear primary topic, even to a non-American such as myself. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:41, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Red Slash 20:25, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The Centeral Park in Manhattan is clearly the primary topic of "Centeral Park".  CookieMonster755  (talk)   01:01, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, guys. Central Park can be considered a primary topic, but its page should still mention New York in the title. We can simply have Central Park redirect to Central Park (New York), so that when the time for it to be disambiguated comes, we don't have another page to move besides Central Park (disambiguation). One can simply add the hatnote to the new page and it will be clear to all.
 * No, there's no need whatsoever to mention "New York" in the title if it's the primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:03, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose as clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Zarcadia (talk) 20:47, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


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Benches (& Wien Walk)
There's nothing in this article about the benches in Central Park. There are several types, and many have dedication plaques. The article "4,223 Central Park Benches With Stories to Tell" by N. R. Kleinfield in The New York Times from June 19, 2016, has some details and numbers. The benches are a very visible part of Central Park, and should be mentioned in the article.

Reading that article, I noticed that Wien Walk isn't mentioned either. It's one of the most popular entries to the park (and has no benches left available for plaques); it might be worth mentioning. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:36, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

5th or 6th?
Article (currently) says; Central Park is the fifth-largest park in New York City, 

yet the linked page (labelled NYC) has it at 6th. MBG02 (talk) 17:08, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
 * One could argue that the largest park, Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge, which consists mainly of water and marshes, is not quite a "park" in the same sense that the others are. You might notice that Pelham Bay Park is described as "the largest public park in NYC", and each of the parks listed at nos. 3 to 5 are described as number 2 to 4 in size in their respective articles. Maybe the section "Top ten parks by area" at the list of NYC parks could do with an explanation. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:23, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Here is an official source labeling it as 5th
 * According to the NY Times (the source used in the article), "Central Park remains in fifth place, with 843 acres." The Jamaica Bay refuge isn't a park, so I removed it from the other article. epicgenius (talk) 11:51, 17 September 2018 (UTC)