Talk:Central Park mandarin duck

Formatting
weird. I think this is the first time I've started an article using primarily Visual Editor. Those are oddities introduced by the citation generator, it seems. Strange indeed. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 19:12, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Don't worry. There's plenty of instances where VE messes up. For example, It will keep the italic/bold markup next to a ref, if you try to copy the ref. In this edit to IND Queens Boulevard Line, the markup like  was kept, and was undetected for years. Other examples include having to write links like   and inserting &lt;nowiki /&gt; whenever there is a mismatch in apostrophes.
 * I almost exclusively add content in Visual Editor now, so that's stuff you should probably look out for after making major editions using VE. epicgenius (talk) 19:25, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Infobox
I see someone added an infobox. I don't have a particularly strong stance on inclusion, but it seems to me that if all it does is rearrange a subset of material already covered in the first sentence, it doesn't really do its job of presenting material in an "at a glance" way. I think just having a bigger picture there is probably better... &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 14:56, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

GAN topic
Just FYI I left the subtopic field empty because miscellaneous seemed like the most appropriate section in this case. Wouldn't have thought a particular animal celebrity would make sense to include in "biology and medicine", but I'm also fine to defer to others on that... &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 01:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, Rhododendrites, it's a mandarin duck, and ducks come under biology and medicine. It turns out Mandarin Patinkin was very useful, because being down in the Miscellaneous section it was failing to transclude, an indication that the GAN page was, for the first time, too long to successfully transclude all of the now-800+ templates on the page without running over the maximum page length generated by all those templates. It's something we've run into a number of times at DYK, but I'm not sure how GAN will be able to deal with it: I've posted to the talk page so people know that the problem exists and what it might entail. If you want, you can put it back in Miscellaneous, but it won't be seen properly until this is dealt with. (Right now, the most recent of the Warfare nominations isn't showing.) Fun times! BlueMoonset (talk) 02:03, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yikes! Thanks for the quick explanation. Like I said, I'm content to defer to you/others on this. I just wouldn't have thought to be a specific instance of an animal in with the articles about animal species. No big deal. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 02:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 18 August 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved, as proposed. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:51, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Mandarin Patinkin → Central Park mandarin duck – WP:Commonname, "Mandarin Patinkin" has not been commonly used outside of the news site that coined it. Zhanmusi (talk) 14:51, 18 August 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:28, 3 September 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:41, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Support -- but prefer just Central Park duck, which also already redirects here, as the even more common name.--Yaksar (let's chat) 15:43, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Apparently I created that redirect, but now I'm not so sure it should even redirect here. For the title of this article it certainly doesn't make sense. There have been lots of stories about lots of ducks in Central Park. No individual duck has achieved this kind of fame, but people write about the ducks and other birds there all the time. Even while this one was getting press attention people were writing other stories about all the other cool ducks that are in Central Park. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 22:58, 1 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Support original proposal. All refs seem to use the term "mandarin", so seems good to retain that. Otherwise, per nom. The current title isn't very WP:RECOGNIZEable. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 16:32, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Choosing a title for the article was difficult. I chose Mandarin Patinkin because it's both specific and common. It was coined by Gothamist and used in their sources (the source which covered it most), but also e.g. LA Times, Northjersey.com, channel 6, Kirkus Reviews, etc. A bunch of other sources call it "Hot Duck" but that's both less common and more easily confused. There's no clear name, so it would be either "Mandarin Patinkin" (the most common name) or a descriptive title. I don't care for the descriptive approach in this case because (a) there are other mandarin ducks in Central Park, in the zoo, as a couple of the sources point out; (b) there's just no need to. There is a name we can (and do) use, which is common enough, and avoids any current or future ambiguity (should, say, another mandarin duck get loose in the park). &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 22:50, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support original proposal, as more descriptive of what the subject actually is. BD2412  T 20:54, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * My hope is that this won't be closed before anyone attempts to respond to any of the opposing argument... &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 21:12, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I find "Mandarin Patinkin" confusing. It sounds like "Patinkin" is a kind of bird, like a kakapo or a pardalote. BD2412  T 21:37, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sure Mandy would be disappointed to hear that. :) Regardless, any descriptive name will always be more ... descriptive. But the question isn't whether a proper noun immediately brings to mind a species of bird but whether it is sufficiently common and specific in the sources such that there is no need to use a clumsy descriptive title (which, apart from being unnecessary, is increasingly likely to overlap with the other mandarin ducks that live in Central Park as time goes by and this one fades from popular culture). I'll leave it at that, though. It's not a big deal -- it just seems unnecessary, especially since the proposed title already redirects here and this one is [again] common enough and entirely specific. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 21:56, 4 October 2020 (UTC)


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