Talk:Ceratoid angler fish

Please Share Your Knowledge
If you are interested in the Ceratoid Angler Fish and just discovered that the Wikipedia has a page for it, then I appologize personally. I put this page up mostly for you because I suspect you must already know something about it.

The article page has little verifiable content. If you have any knowledge at all about Angler Fishes or Ceratoids, please click the edit this page link at the top and share your knowledge without hesitation.

All errors, including Typos, are welcome on this page.

I will proofread, revise and edit into the article summaries of contributions not made directly to the article page.

--Ohadaloni 19:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Intro
I created this page from old memory recollections. This fish is very special due to its reproductive mechanism.

The Angler fish is detailed in scrutiny in at least one BBC show I have on my virtual computer video shelves. In time, I will find which one, and create a better summary.

looking for sources
If my memory serves me right, the angler's light and bait fishing quality as so accuratly described in Finding Nemo is factual.

But it is just one other way of obtainign food. Certain sea turtles have similar mechanisms. It is not generally unique or in any manner special.

It is interesting to know however, that the movie makers did some fine research, and they must have sources, and records, and much detail.

--Ohadaloni 20:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I remembered this fish vaguly from some childhood disney nature movie, and some ten or so years ago, I decided the Internet is advanced enough to go and look for a fish purly by the description of this wierd parasite-like reproductive system.

It took about six months to find the name of the fish by e-mailing one at a time to a list of oceanic institutes until I found a student who gave me the name.

Other than the name, I have no records from this event. But there is at least one oceanic institute where at the time there was a mentor and a student, both experts with this fish. It is possible that the term oceanic institute is coined in my memory because it is part of the name of that particular organization. This was my only experience conversing with biology experts in such a context. If you happen to know of any blah-blah oceanic institute, please throw in the name.

--Ohadaloni 20:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Why is it so Special
If for the purpose if this text, I define Love in animals as that of which the effect is having committed to couple for life, then love at first sight, if I can call it that, is only known in this one species (probably family?), to my knowldge.

There are quite a few animals, like whales, who will remain coupled for life After the first sexual encounter. This is not that rare in high order mamals and birds, and is driven by a complex hormonal mechanisms.

With the angler, its a much more primitive system. With the whales, for instance, similar hormonal activity science has tested and correlated to human Love, is at work to couple the whales for life.

With the angler, its a simple genetic survival traight for Natural Selection to develop from a chance favorable mutation.

--Ohadaloni 19:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

references collected for more research
From a google page with the original source no longer having this text in view:

JSTOR: 1100-Meter Dive in the Bathyscaph TriesteDwarfed males parasitic on the females in oceanic angler-fishes. Proc. Roy. Soc. London, B97: 386-399. 1930. A ceratoid fish (Caulophryne polynema) female ... links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0024-3590(195901)4:1%3C94:1DITBT%3E2.0.CO;2-P - Similar pages

From this same dive, the better link is describing the angler in a xerox from a print:

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0006-3185(196910)137:2%3C332:RPNS(H%3E2.0.CO;2-W

--Ohadaloni 19:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)