Talk:Ceres/Archive 1


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move. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 12:36, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Page move
Proposal: Move the disambiguation page (currently "Ceres") to "Ceres (disambiguation)" and this article to "Ceres".

Reasoning: The mythological Ceres is the origin of most places or objects named Ceres. Also, the names of the other articles are not just "Ceres". Places are named "Ceres, XXX"; the brewery is "Ceres Brewery"; the asteroid article is "1 Ceres". &mdash;Mike 04:34, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)


 * This ancient request seems absolutely reasonable. In particular, the current situation is untenable: Ceres redirects to Ceres (mythology)! Having a disambig page at Ceres might be acceptable, but having a redirect from a simpler name to a parenthetical one is bad, bad form. -Silence 03:12, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It is clear from your discussion at Ravi Shankar that you are an opponent of parentheses in article names. Could you explain why you think they are objectionable?  --BostonMA 20:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to parentheses where they are necessary. They are unnecessary here. It's as simple as that. They are in no way helpful, are completely redundant, and cause much more complication and confusion than simply leaving the page named the way it is, in addition to clearly (and totally pointlessly, arbitrarily and randomly) ignoring Wikipedia Disambiguation style. I don't understand why you think parentheses would benefit either article, when either way the unparenthetical article will redirect to them, wasting time and space for no real reason. Are you suggesting that we add parentheses to every article? Because there's no more reason to use parentheses here than there is to use them on any other random article on Wikipedia. -Silence 06:20, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Clearly either Ceres (disambiguation) or Ceres (mythology) should be moved to Ceres. I lean towards moving the goddess, as the primary usage. Rd232 talk 21:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. -Silence 06:20, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


 * OPPOSE the dab page should sit at Ceres. Otherwise, you'd need to think of a reason why Mars is a planet and not a god. 132.205.45.110 19:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Nonsense. Mars is for the planet because a major planet near the Earth is more noteworthy than a single 3000-year-old deity from a culture's pantheon. Ceres should be for the goddess because there's nothing else even close to being as noteworthy as the goddess. The disambiguation criteria are clear. A majority of users who search for Mars will be looking for the planet, and a majority of users who search for Ceres will be looking for the goddess, so I don't see what's so wrong about actually doing what will benefit the most people and be consistent with tens of thousands of other disambig pages. Jeez. -Silence 22:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


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