Talk:Cestoda

Proglottid etc
This seems to be an awesome article, long and full of interesting information about an important subject. Still I would like to point at some potential improvements.

The word proglottid is not a well-known word. The article shows awareness of this. This word should not be used in the third sentence in the intro.

I don't know what a definitive host host is. My guess is it means obligatory, in the sense that it is necessary for the completion of the life cycle. If that is the case, maybe necessary would be better. I found it means the host is the environment where sexual reproduction takes place. Could not find out whether it is the exclusive host where it takes place.

strobila and scolex are also too poorly known to be used in the intro.
 * I agree with the points you raise and have rewritten the opening paragraph of the lead which was rather scrappy. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:40, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

All tapeworms are hermaphrodites, with both male and female reproductive organs. This is a very small problem. But notice that this says the same thing twice. All tapeworms have both female and male reproductive organs. contains the same information about the world. The writer seems to have the ambition to teach the reader about the term hermaphrodite. But the true task here is to tell about the cestodes. We should do that as directly and as efficiently as possible. The sentence is slightly ambiguous: Is it about the taxon or about the individuals? I suggest: Among the tapeworms, each individual has both female and male reproductive organs. --Ettrig (talk) 20:53, 30 May 2018 (UTC)


 * The definitive host is the one and only site of sexual reproduction. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:41, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Name
Is there any reason the article's name isn't Tapeworm? Cestoda doesn't seem to fall in line with WP:Common names  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 03:29, 18 July 2018 (UTC)


 * That Eucestoda matches the common name better. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:38, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * If that’s the case, why does tapeworm redirect here? Shouldn’t it be a disambiguation page?  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 14:59, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, not actually an issue for this article. However I've asked that Tapeworm redirect to Eucestoda which accurately matches the tapeworm description. Cestoda includes some distinctly non-tapewormy animals. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:09, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Redirect for discussion
I'm proposing to have Tapeworm redirect to Eucestoda rather than Cestoda as it seems to me a better match. Anyone interested is invited to comment at. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:07, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Thoughts on improving this article
I think this article would be much better by being:
 * less eucestode-centric (may involve moving some content to Eucestoda)
 * clear on the distinction between the cestodarians and eucestodes
 * clear on the dictinction between adult and larval forms

These key references can be found online (using Libgen and Sci-Hub): Edit-pi (talk) 03:25, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * General Parasitology (THOMAS C. CHENG) - Already used for reference in the article under 3 different citations. Has separate chapters for Cestodaria & Eustoda and more cestode related info in other chapters. I suggest citing by chapter using relevant DOI from the official site.
 * Encyclopedia of Parasitology (ed. HEINZ MEHLHORN) - Useful for gaining a quick understanding of the subject matter and general disambiguation of terms. Official site.
 * Modern Parasitology: A Textbook of Parasitology (ed. F. E. G. COX) - Is much more limited in scope than General Parasitology, might be useful. Official site.

added a paragraph on a new body fossil, Rugosusivitta
Added a few lines on the occurrence of a new body fossil, Rugosusivitta, from the Ediacaran–Cambrian boundary interval of the Zhongyicun Member in Yunnan Province, China. This great find shows once again that already many basic animal groups must have developed in the Ediacaran period. So this might have implications for other articles as well, as we have to put the split of Cestodians, then living as bentos feeders, with other Placyzoans somewhere in the Ediacaran. But as Placyzoans are considered very basal bilaterians, this should not come as a big surprise, given the presence of more derived animals as proto-arthropods (Sprigginia) and proto-mollusks (Kimberella) moving around at the last stages of the Ediacaran. Codiv (talk) 12:29, 3 August 2022 (UTC)