Talk:Chakram

Tales of Symphonia
Overall, a well written article. I'd never heard of "Tales of Symphonia" up until this article, but isn't the comment on Collete Brunell a violation of the NPOV? Dessydes 14:00, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * It indeed is. Fix'd. ~regruBgniK


 * I don't quite understand what anybody could have wrote to violate the NPOV, but Tales of Symphonia was an immensely popular game and deserves its mention in the article - especially given the large fanbase that will undoubtedly wonder what the heck a chakram is (I certainly didn't know or care before ToS, and the word isn't even in Firefox's spellcheck dictionary). I've added a line on Collete similar to the others, and I'm pretty sure it expresses no POV. --69.115.161.97 (talk) 12:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Why is Tales of Symphonia not even mentioned in this article anymore? Maybe somebody could explain how linking to a game in which one of the main characters uses a Chakram does not display a NPOV?  Because I am not understanding why the part mentioning ToS was deleted. 71.211.60.25 (talk) 22:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Request
I remember seeing a movie where a guy from the future travels back in time to inject heroin in victims and extract the endorphins produced by the brain in response to the drug, which he will presumably sell later as a much more expensive drug. He has an array of futuristic weapons, among which a remote-controlled razor disk. I can't for the life of me remember the title, nor have I identified it yet. Anyone? --62.110.27.250 16:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I Come In Peace aka dark angel.--D-Boy 21:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Proper Use?
I actually have one of these. I have always wondered how one throws it without cutting oneself. Shador5529 15:25, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * As i understand it, one is supposed to either throw it like a Frisbee, or whirl it around your finger before throwing it in (hopefully!) the correct direction--UltraMagnus (talk) 15:51, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

too much fancruft
need to move it to it's own page.--D-Boy 06:05, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Accurate Range?
40 to 50 metres seems very far for a weapon like this. Is there any evidence backing up these figures?


 * I find the figure difficult to credit. However, since I don't really know anything about this weapon, I contented myself to add a "citation needed". Orcoteuthis 20:39, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

In the same section, the sentence:
 * "Regular-sized steel chakram could be thrown 40–60 meters, while brass chakram, due to their lower mass and better airfoil design, could be thrown in excess of 100 meters.[1]"

This is a problem. Steel is less dense than practically all brasses and bronzes: Steel runs around 7850Kg/m3 vs. a typical brass at around 8500 Kg/M3. There are a wide range of densities in the world of alloys we call brass and bronze, depending on the exact composition.

See: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/metal-alloys-densities-d_50.html for reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.244.219.162 (talk) 22:11, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Use in media
The current phrasing of this section is misleading: "A much larger (and purely fictional) version of the chakram has been used in a lot of fantasy and martial arts media, including the television show, Xena: Warrior Princess. This version, most likely due to its size, is restricted mostly to being a melee weapon instead of a throwing one, with its fighting technique being similar to the acrobatic use of a hula hoop in circus acts."

While perhaps a larger version, used like a hula hoop, is shown in 'a lot of fantasy and martial arts media' (I've never seen such a thing, but I haven't seen all of the video games and shows mentioned), the chakram in Xena is of the size described for the historical chakram in this article, and is used as a throwing weapon almost exclusively.

As I haven't seen the other media items mentioned, I don't know if the use of the chakram described above is accurate for them, but I imagine from the words 'dual-wielded' that it isn't. I hesitate to rewrite the section without input from someone who knows about the other characters mentioned, though I can provide cites for Xena's chakram. Anybody? LaPrecieuse 05:01, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, in the game Baten Kaitos one of the major characters, Mizuti, uses a Chakram as her main weapon. It's quite small, about the size of the real chakrams in the Indian painting, and used only for throwing. 24.78.225.171 (talk) 02:39, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Chakram vs. Wind and Fire Wheels?
Quote from the article: "One should be careful not to confuse chakram with wind and fire wheels, which are larger and used in melee."

Which would indicate that Chakrams are exclusively for throwing.

However, many of the uses in popular culture actually refer to melee weapons rather than throwing weapons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.156.101 (talk) 19:34, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You're correct, a lot of the pop culture references belong on the wind and fire wheel page. Chakrams are used exclusively for throwing. I'd move the info myself but I'm not familiar with popular culture so I don't know which ones go. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.82.142.13 (talk) 22:39, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * As per John Hill (1963), it is known as Chalikar (Reference is given in the article). If Chakram is confusing, name may be changed to Chalikar. --Vssun (talk) 10:50, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Weapon Masters
A Discovery show hosted by Mike Loades and Chad Houseknecht and the episode researches and tries to improve the historic weapon. In combat at range they showed the larger Chakram being released after being spun up on a finger from horseback, elephant. On the ground the larger Chakram can be worn as part of the turban and raked across an opponents face in close combat and it also has a minor armor value. The show also demonstrated a ground formation of three men with small shields and swords surrounding a fourth chakram wielding fighter.

Smaller Chakram are worn on the arms and provide minor armor value and can be used in close combat raked across an opponent. A single chakram can also be used like a blade for slashing. The smaller Chakram was shown thrown overhand for a single target or flicked from the wrist quickly like you could a deck of cards for multiple targets.

The chakram are traditionally built from a piece of steel heated and beaten into the circular shape using an anvil with an indentation to help make the curve and once complete then the outer edge is sharpened. Chad's modern Chakram is cut from a sheet of steel using a plasma cutter.

I did miss a few parts of the show so this information is not all that was available from this source and for that reason I won't do any major edits on the page at this stage.

Rutger43 (talk) 08:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Archaeological evidence of Chakra
The article claims that Chakra was used by ancient Indians as a weapon but didn't post any historical/archaeological evidence on that like it has presented for Sikhs. Please post historical evidence of chakra used by ancient Indians Princhest (talk) 07:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Reference of John hill is given. --Vssun (talk) 10:52, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

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A game featuring Chakrams
Recently had a dream that sparked this thought.

I believe there was a game that featured the Chakram. You were one of four heroes, who each had one of these weapons. You either started with the Chakram, or started with a boomerang that you could upgrade into a chakram. I’m sure it was on the Nintendo DS, possibly 3DS, assuming it even exists. Any leads? Crystalcomet (talk) 22:55, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Why is it called 'Indonesian-Silat weapon when Chakram is searched through google?
For some reason this phrase 'Indonesian-Silat weapon' is there under the name Chakram as the wiki page google automatically shows, it cannot be edited in any way, and even the word 'Indonesian-Silat weapon' is no where to be found in this entire Page, i suggest looking into this. The page overall also needs refurbishment, since it has many issues. It should also be expanded and made more attractive and informative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagnique (talk • contribs) 20:46, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

chakram mace
Is chakri dong what is often referred to modernly as a chakram mace (often feature tulwar hilts or khanda hilts)? 89.201.228.101 (talk) 20:20, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

2 types ?
According to this there are 2 types of chakram: Multi-Point Chakram/Toothed chakram (this is not Japanese shaken as it has too big diameter; one subtype is Saw-toothed chakram). This "standard" chakram is called Smooth Chakram. 89.201.201.113 (talk) 00:43, 15 November 2020 (UTC)